Poll: guitar words are
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rhetoric play
50 46%
actually have a meaning.
58 54%
Voters: 108.
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#1
you know what I've never understood? terms like "wailing overdrive", "creamy cleans", "glistening cleans" and so on.

you know what I think all of these words mean? ****ing nothing, that's what. I think they are just pretty words that have absolutely no meaning. you might as well substitute all of them with "good".
or am I wrong?

really, I don't know. is there a difference between glistening and creamy cleans etc. or ist it all one big rhetoric goobeldygoop?

(changed the poll because the option "coreysMonster sucks" was getting way too many votes)
#3
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v the fuck? since when am I a troll? it's not like I never post around here
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#5
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I know you were

Well here's my input: I think they have meaning. Music is like food you know?
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#6
It doesn't really bother me. I refuse to vote on the grounds that this thread is pointless.
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#7
Like "Crushing Overdrive"?


... Yeah, they're pointless.

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#8
They do have a meaning. It's the beauty of the english language I guess. But then I often see music I listen to in shapes and colours, so maybe it's just me.
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#9
I'm with you, I don't get them.
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#10
its called descrptive language,

creamy = thick
wailing = heavy/harmonically rich
glistening = mid and treble rich.

catch my drift?

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#11
Haven't you noticed people only use them to descrive something really crappy?
Like "Crushing overdrive". Total bullsht.
#12
I'm sorry I didn't see /rant there...


...can you please try again?


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#13
Like I said, some make sense. Like crunchy, muddy, chunky, hot, etc. But some I just don't get.
#14
Quote by Silver-spear94
its called descrptive language,

creamy = thick
wailing = heavy/harmonically rich
glistening = mid and treble rich.

catch my drift?



But that implies that everyone has those same meanings for those words, which I doubt they do. A creamy clean to one person would sound different to somone else, which is why they're pointless.
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#15
Quote by Hereiwas
They do have a meaning. It's the beauty of the english language I guess. But then I often see music I listen to in shapes and colours, so maybe it's just me.



exactly. It just makes it sound like its better than it actually is
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#16
I think it's pointless. I'm not really picky about guitar tone anyways, but most people seem to like to fiddle around with everything and buy a million accessories just to get the 'perfect' sound.
#17
It's a way to vaguely describe music.

If everybody knows what you mean when you say it, it would probably have some meaning.

But nah. It's just not a word.

Does "Too much Stock" count to that?
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#18
Quote by CoreysMonster
you know what I've never understood? terms like "wailing overdrive", "creamy cleans", "glistening cleans" and so on.


wailing overdrive - sounds like a baby in pain

creamy cleans - makes me want to eat mashed potatoes when used

glistening cleans - make me all oily and thus glistening after use..


that's what they meant to me.
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#19
Quote by jambi_mantra
But that implies that everyone has those same meanings for those words, which I doubt they do. A creamy clean to one person would sound different to somone else, which is why they're pointless.


Without them though, we are left with saying things like "good distortion", "clean cleans" and whatnot, and "good" is way more subjective than "wailing" or any of the others.
#20
they describe how the sounds feel

if that makes sense... :S
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#22
Lots of meaning...

When somebody is trying to describe a tone,

"creamy overdrive" or "dry overdrive" make a big difference.
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#23
Quote by CoreysMonster
you know what I've never understood? terms like "wailing overdrive", "creamy cleans", "glistening cleans" and so on.

you know what I think all of these words mean? ****ing nothing, that's what. I think they are just pretty words that have absolutely no meaning. you might as well substitute all of them with "good".
or am I wrong?

really, I don't know. is there a difference between glistening and creamy cleans etc. or ist it all one big rhetoric goobeldygoop?

(changed the poll because the option "coreysMonster sucks" was getting way too many votes)


wow your not to bright are you....hear is a quick guide to what those words to describe tone mean:

creamy - low and mid range boost
warm - upper low end boost
punchy - mid range boost
glistening - high range boost
bright - high range boost
sceaming - driven mids
#24
Quote by JayLacelle
wow your not to bright are you....hear is a quick guide to what those words to describe tone mean:

creamy - low and mid range boost
warm - upper low end boost
punchy - mid range boost
glistening - high range boost
bright - high range boost
sceaming - driven mids


um.. is there like a tone dictionary where that is defined? or is that your personal opinion?

EDIT: ah, may 09. I understand.
#25
Quote by CoreysMonster
um.. is there like a tone dictionary where that is defined? or is that your personal opinion?

EDIT: ah, may 09. I understand.



Those words really do have meaning... just like "scooped", which is probably the most used out of any of them.
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#26
Quote by CoreysMonster
um.. is there like a tone dictionary where that is defined? or is that your personal opinion?

EDIT: ah, may 09. I understand.


peoples opinions may vary slightly but 99% of guitar players agree of this
#27
Considering sound is fairly difficult to describe and everyone will have different definitions of words, I vote to change the way we describe guitar sounds from words to just imitating the sound with our voices sort of like onomatopoeia IT WILL WORK TRUST ME NOW GO
#28
Quote by JayLacelle
peoples opinions may vary slightly but 99% of guitar players agree of this



actually, according to my poll, 50% of the guitarists do not agree on this.
#29
i believe what you are trying to say is that adjectives are useless. lets try to replace some adjectives with "good" like you say we should do.

Wow! That was some good sex.

What a good guitar player you are!

Man, this is some good weed.


Now, lets try using the creative, non-monotonous side of our brains.


Wow! That was some phenomenal, mind-blowing, earth-quaking sex.

What an astonishing, panty-dropping guitar player you are!

Man, this is some mind-numbing, life-altering weed.
#30
Quote by metaldud536


Because you don't know how to think.



Fair enough.

Anyway, I think they actually have meaning. I think they're there to give a description of how it actually sounds.
Think like, creamy solo, it's very smooth sounding, fat, probably neck pick-up.
I actually don't really get how that's so hard to understand, no offense.
I think it all make sense.
#31
Quote by sickstring11
i believe what you are trying to say is that adjectives are useless. lets try to replace some adjectives with "good" like you say we should do.

Wow! That was some good sex.

What a good guitar player you are!

Man, this is some good weed.


Now, lets try using the creative, non-monotonous side of our brains.


Wow! That was some phenomenal, mind-blowing, earth-quaking sex.

What an astonishing, panty-dropping guitar player you are!

Man, this is some mind-numbing, life-altering weed.


okay, now lets try using guitar words:

wow! that was some crushing sex!
what a wailing guitar player you are!
man, this is some glistening weed!


it just... doesn'T sound like a real meaning, but rather a picture someone's painting for himself
#32
Quote by CoreysMonster
actually, according to my poll, 50% of the guitarists do not agree on this.


and how many people have taken that poll? all the guitar players of the world?
#33
Quote by JayLacelle
and how many people have taken that poll? all the guitar players of the world?


how many guitar players do you know? all the guitar players in the worlds?

really, your argument doesnt make sense.
#34
no i usually get them. They DO have meanings, that's why they got started. They're all onomonopoiea, i think

for sure the best way to describe the sound of an electric though a tube amp is "glassy"
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#35
Quote by CoreysMonster
how many guitar players do you know? all the guitar players in the worlds?

really, your argument doesnt make sense.


no but i know A LOT more players than have taken this poll

if someone disagrees with these "tone words" than it's their loss. these words are meant to make it easier to describe guitar sounds...just because your brain can't comprehend these simple analogies doesn't mean it's stupid
#36
Quote by JayLacelle
no but i know A LOT more players than have taken this poll

if someone disagrees with these "tone words" than it's their loss. these words are meant to make it easier to describe guitar sounds...just because your brain can't comprehend these simple analogies doesn't mean it's stupid


uh okay, no need to get angry, dude oO
#37
Like someone else said, crunchy, muddy, clean etc. make sense, but others don't. I have never understood how warm, bright, and glistening fit in with certain tones. Like I heard someone, not in this thread, describe Keith Richards tone as really bright or warm I can't remember which, and I immediatley thought no his tone his dirty and crunchy not warm or bright. Warm and bright are terms I would associate with clean if I knew nothing about guitar.
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#38
Quote by JayLacelle
no but i know A LOT more players than have taken this poll

if someone disagrees with these "tone words" than it's their loss. these words are meant to make it easier to describe guitar sounds...just because your brain can't comprehend these simple analogies doesn't mean it's stupid

+1

it doesn't matter if this guy's an 09er or not, he nows his ****. Trying to use someone's join date as a valid argument, or a way to prove them wrong or you right is retarded.

A person with 63 IQ and a severe learning impairment could have joined in ****ing 2003 for all we know, or Mozart himself could join in 09.
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#39
Glass like cleans, creamy cleans, warm overdrive, harsh overdrive that sorta stuff all has meaning.
It's when you're saying stuff like "That overdrive is crushing/wailing/etc" that's bollocks.
#40
Quote by poopsmith666
+1

it doesn't matter if this guy's an 09er or not, he nows his ****. Trying to use someone's join date as a valid argument, or a way to prove them wrong or you right is retarded.

A person with 63 IQ and a severe learning impairment could have joined in ****ing 2003 for all we know, or Mozart himself could join in 09.


nah, his "wow, you're not too bright, are you?" and "you're stupid" kinda made me see him as an immature person who, instead of trying to teach people, flame them instead. people who have been here longer no better than to insult right away without reason.
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