#1
i wanted to learn come clarity and noticed its in A# F A# CGD or something like that,i have a custom set on my guitar which is something like .56 . 46 .38 but they get all wobbley on b# and i dont think they're playable on A, do they really tune that low?
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#2
it is possible and you need REALLY heavy gauge strings, it'll still probably feel wobbly
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#3
Yes they do. It is Possible. Lot's of bands do it, youjust need a thicker guage of string that will be better for the lower tunings as far as I know.
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#5
They do. And they don't even have baritones They play a LP and a Gibson V.
I don't tune lower than Drop C so they can suck my dick.
#6
just put some 12s or 13s on your guitar and you're done, have 12s now and drop A# isn't a problem, but i prefer drop c and d standard.

Ps. Amon Amarth tunes down to drop A and Soulfly on some songs do Drop G...
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#7
There is no b# unless you want to get into enharmonic stuff. But a gauge 56 low E should be thick enough for it. You might accidentally be tuning too low, try using a chromatic to make sure you're right.
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#8
is there a heavier gauge than a .56? by how much is it bigger? why do they tune so low?
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#9
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They do. And they don't even have baritones They play a LP and a Gibson V.
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#10
some bands tune lower, its no big deal. but i personally will not go past B
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#11
12s or 13s are fine for drop a# Youll have a muddy sound with thinner ones though, its ****
#13
They used to only go to C Standard, but once they went lower, they started to suck. The Jester Race was their peak, imo. Anyway, you need a higher gauge of strings to get that low.
#14
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whats the difference between a baritone guitar and a regular guitar??


a baritone is guitar with a longer neck causing more tension making it possible to tune lowe
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#15
Yes, since (don't quote me on this) STYE (or maybe R2R?) In Flames tune to Drop A#, which is C Standard with low C dropped another whole step. I think they use 12.-56. sets on their guitars.
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#16
if you want to play some in flames..then just get some heavier strings. other bands tune lower then that so idk why its even in question (search through the forums a lil bit and youll find ppl playing ERG to like F# or some ****. maybe you dont have an ERG but IMO its pretty possible for you to get what ever tuning you want). half of these responses are saying "oh i tune to drop c blah blah blah" and all i think is...who gives a shat what you tune to? he is talkin about what he has to do to tune HIS guitar to fcukin A.

and whats with the guy saying they can suck my dick?why did you even post in here? to feel like your giving some sort of imput? its an endless, pointless conversation. get heavier strings...set the fcukin thing up. if you cant do it yourself...bring it to a tech

the whole point to forums is to give advice to someone else, and give a worthwhile opinion. seems like only about half, or a third or worth much.

this thread is over.
#17
Quote by svelle
just put some 12s or 13s on your guitar and you're done, have 12s now and drop A# isn't a problem, but i prefer drop c and d standard.

Ps. Amon Amarth tunes down to drop A and Soulfly on some songs do Drop G...

i thought cavalera uses a 4-string custom guitar.
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if you want to play some in flames..then just get some heavier strings. other bands tune lower then that so idk why its even in question (search through the forums a lil bit and youll find ppl playing ERG to like F# or some ****. maybe you dont have an ERG but IMO its pretty possible for you to get what ever tuning you want). half of these responses are saying "oh i tune to drop c blah blah blah" and all i think is...who gives a shat what you tune to? he is talkin about what he has to do to tune HIS guitar to fcukin A.

and whats with the guy saying they can suck my dick?why did you even post in here? to feel like your giving some sort of imput? its an endless, pointless conversation. get heavier strings...set the fcukin thing up. if you cant do it yourself...bring it to a tech

the whole point to forums is to give advice to someone else, and give a worthwhile opinion. seems like only about half, or a third or worth much.

this thread is over.

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By the way. Someone link me to that band that plays in drop G, I gotta see that ****.
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#19
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i thought cavalera uses a 4-string custom guitar.

No he doesnt. He just doesnt put on the E and the B.
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#20
That's nothing, try some ISIS. They use F#, F#, B, E, G#, C#. (As in down from standard)
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#21
i'm waiting to see a metal band do drop D,

..no, not just with a dropped E, the whole damn thing down an octave THEN drop D. on a standard length guitar. has it been done?
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#22
Baritone is the way to go, with some nice 12's in it
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#23
Mortician use G Standard.
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#24
if you really want to tune low as in drop A you should probably get 4 heavy strings and then only 2 light strings, like on my guitar i have my gauges set at .52 .46 .42 .30 .17 .13 i had to steal the .46 string from my dunlop strings and rig it in with my Earney Ball strings, on my Jackson King V2. i have a tremello and i can hardly use it because the strings pull that tremello up so much, but i can easily get it into drop A so i can play songs like Psychosocial by Slipknot. its an awesome song and my Metal Master distortion pedal really pumps out the Heavyness of the strings. now if i could only get some EMG pickups i would truly love my guitar.......
#25
Yep, I think they first experimented with it on Clayman (see Pinball Map)

I read in an interview they use 13 guage strings
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#26
Theres nothing wrong with 14-62 strings, and yes I can tune that
to E standard if I have to, just makes bending notes much more difficult
but the tone is so much greater. If you change tunings often invest
in 2 guitars, one for tunings G through C and C through E

I use 10-52 for E and Drop D

I use 12-56 for C through E

and 14-62 for C through G

13-58 also works

It's all personal preference

And EMG's arnt that hot, just a passive pickup with a preamp
as long as you have a hot passive such as SH-6 or SH-8
you can put strings just as close and use 10 band eq with gain
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#27
Quote by conor1148
i'm waiting to see a metal band do drop D,

..no, not just with a dropped E, the whole damn thing down an octave THEN drop D. on a standard length guitar. has it been done?


hmm Meshuggah has a few songs that are close. they've used 8s on some more recent albums and on obZen from last year, several songs are in F and "Bleed" is in D#.

to the fellow who started this thread, sorry forgot your name, for drop Bb/A# id reccommend 12-58s. ive got that plus a .070 on my seven string and im down a step and a half and i think the strings are just a little too tight. down another half step and you'll be fine. i really wouldnt use anything smaller than .058 for B or Bb. im actually about to restring one of my guitars for drop B and drop Bb so i can learn some disarmonia mundi and in flames!

by the way my recommendations are based on a 25.5" scale, so if you have anything smaller, you might try very slightly larger strings. best of luck


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#28
shredmaster12 Easy. Baritone guitars are longer, so they have the same tension on strings with lower tunings.
Many many bands have low tunings (e.g. Slipknot uses to play in Drop A). To do so, you need a baritone guitar with .13 or .14 strings (mine is an ESP  baritone tuned on standard A, using .14 strings). The other option, for regular guitar (not baritone I mean), is to use even thicker strings... you have to test several because every guitar is completely different.

The rule is: the longer the guitar (27-30" is considered baritone), more tension. Otherwise, the thicker the string, also delivers more tension, then allowing lower tunings. So, if you want lower tunings you have to get one of both...

With the same guitar, thicker strings will need more tension to get the same note, so it is not recommended to put thicker strings on a regular guitar unless you down-tune it! and, on the other hand, you need thicker strings if you want to down-tune it.

In addition to that, thicker strings will have more "body" in the sound, but you will notice less sharp notes and harmonics will be more difficult (not impossible, just more difficult, but practice is everything at all!)

In short, if you want very low tunings, the best option is to get a baritone guitar, which will allow you to have "sensible" caliber strings... If not possible, then you have to use thick strings on your "regular" guitar.
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#29
Quote by alescribano
shredmaster12 Easy. Baritone guitars are longer, so they have the same tension on strings with lower tunings.
Many many bands have low tunings (e.g. Slipknot uses to play in Drop A). To do so, you need a baritone guitar with .13 or .14 strings (mine is an ESP  baritone tuned on standard A, using .14 strings). The other option, for regular guitar (not baritone I mean), is to use even thicker strings... you have to test several because every guitar is completely different.

The rule is: the longer the guitar (27-30" is considered baritone), more tension. Otherwise, the thicker the string, also delivers more tension, then allowing lower tunings. So, if you want lower tunings you have to get one of both...

With the same guitar, thicker strings will need more tension to get the same note, so it is not recommended to put thicker strings on a regular guitar unless you down-tune it! and, on the other hand, you need thicker strings if you want to down-tune it.

In addition to that, thicker strings will have more "body" in the sound, but you will notice less sharp notes and harmonics will be more difficult (not impossible, just more difficult, but practice is everything at all!)

In short, if you want very low tunings, the best option is to get a baritone guitar, which will allow you to have "sensible" caliber strings... If not possible, then you have to use thick strings on your "regular" guitar.


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