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#1
It's always kind of progressed further, there was blues then rock n roll then Hendrix did all that crazy stuff, then there was hard rock and black sabbath started metal, and page used a violin bow and Van Halen came and everything about him was new, then Malmsteen and Rhoads were shredding crazy speed and Metallica came and then it got heavier and there was Slayer and Pantera and it now metronomes won't go any faster and you just can't get any 'heavier,' can you? Shred is so fast now no-one will even notice if it goes up a few bpm, distortion can't get any more distorted, you can't bang your head 300bpm. Will we just end up going back to hard rock and doing some variations on the theme rather than something completely new? Are there any new hard rock/metal genres coming up now, not including millions of subgenres of metal that just sound cool but they've gone a bit over the top with categorising them. Any ideas? There's gotta be some sort of rock, otherwise we're just gonna get stuck with all the computerised dance stuff. No other genres ever seem to run out of steam, jazz and classical and opera have been going for years, but there's really no room for metal and rock to group upwards , more just going 'sideways.' where do you think it's headed?
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It's headed towards more sub-genres of DragonForce, Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana shizz.
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#4
Jazz metal...?

I think it'd be pretty awesome.
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Hopefully we do go backwards.
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#6
Little King Hunter is the next big thing in music period :P

On a serious note, music will always be surprising a sto who comes out with the next awesome riff, rhythm change, etc. I can't wait to see where it goes.
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#9
each instrument can't get any heavier, but there is no limits for bands as a whole
there could be a band with 10 guitarrist shredding at the same time for example
#11
well in the last few decades the heaviest stuff has be coming from norway and that scandinavian area so if it does get faster and heavier look there. God only knows whats going on in the norweigian underground lol.
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Figured, never heard any though!
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#14
The problem with all of these "extremities" in rock/metal are that they are shallow and obtuse. These musicians need to get acquainted with the fine art of subtlety again. As they say...less is more.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#15
Ask Mike Patton. Ive always found his ideas to be ahead of time, wonder what kinda sideproject he cooking up now along with Mondo Cane thing hes doing.
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#16
You missed out on stoner/desert rock, generator parties will one day kick off bigtime, it just has to. Thanks to bands like Kyuss getting more popular due to the internet, jams where there's no stage, no theatrics, just the band right next to a small crowd playing all night will become bigger and bigger I hope. Here's a sweeeeeet example below, shame Garcia isn't singing at his best in that vid

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#17
I think things are going to take more of an ambient or free jazz direction personally. Lot's of synths and vocoded voice and shizz.

or something tottaly unexpected like krautrock will happen.
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#18
its not the tuning that makes songs heavy, its the riffs man.. Most of sabbaths stuff is in e440 and it sounds heavier than any of those garbage metal bands ever will
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Maybe listeners will be forced to retune their ears to what they consider music. For example a band might put two guitar players playing at a different point on the circle of fifths and starting from a different note that what might be considered a start point.
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#22
electronic instruments will need to get used more. You can get so many more textures because you don't need to rely on a huge band, you can technically only be limited by how much your computer can take which is usually a hell of a lot.


I dont see the point of 'heavyness' so to speak anyway. Good music is good music and people will or should continue to play whatever they feel like and making whatever sounds good to them.
#23
yeah, as far as I can see, Jazz-fusion is the direction to go. Incubus does a bit of it, its pretty cool. Listen to "battlestar-scratchlastica" (sp?) its a bit hip-hop influenced, but I hear more jazz in it every time I listen. Oh, and the acoustic/jazz version of "A Certain Shade of Green". and of course the original version of " A Certain Shade of Green" shows how a song can have some jazz style but still be "heavy"; listen to the bass.
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Maybe listeners will be forced to retune their ears to what they consider music. For example a band might put two guitar players playing at a different point on the circle of fifths and starting from a different note that what might be considered a start point.

That's bitonality/polytonality. All things poly have already been surveyed. We still haven't "retuned" our ears to accept them at large though. In fact, I think it might be inherent for us to listen to music a certain way.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#26
more extreme? Stallagh records mental patients screaming, moaning and mutilating themselves.
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so we've covered that the musicians can't be more extreme

blast beats at 300bpm, indecipherable vocals, guitars playing 16ths at 300bpm...brain drill have proved that more extreme death metal sounds ****.

but, perhaps it will become more extreme in terms of musicianship, we might have a band of people able to play 50nps on their instruments with any technique...

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each instrument can't get any heavier, but there is no limits for bands as a whole
there could be a band with 10 guitarrist shredding at the same time for example

i would not like to have to record that, way to much ego clashing lol.
i wounder how they managed to record hearing aid, that stars thing with like every famous metal person did somthing, its awesome none the less tho

but for the music of the future im not looking forward to it, at least the mainstream crap. cause look at the main stream crap now, it sucks. even the main stream metal(**** lamb of god) but Children of Bodom is amazing and even their stuff changed a **** load from somthing wild, now its alot more idk....not as good. i dont like stuff thats heavy just for the sake of being heavy... we need more bands like Death in this world
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Jazz metal...?

I think it'd be pretty awesome.


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Jazz metal...?

I think it'd be pretty awesome.

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#33
Theres stuff like Micheal Angelo Batio and Rusty Cooley but imo as speed goes up feeling goes way down listen to some Gary Moore or Jeff Beck and feel what one note can do. Hopefully it will come full circle and demand will dictate a return to good rock or metal with feeling.

to the above comments jazz-metal "Fusion" was done in the 70s by Al DiMeola, Chick Corea and others and Im a huge fan of it. Listen to Al DiMeola's Flight Over Rio---good **** there. But theres no reason you cant do it and expand on it as well with modern hi-gain amps
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#34
Metal will be overrun by metalcore. its simply the sad truth.
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#35
As far as metal goes...

It's time to cease this figurative ''arms race'' to sonic supremacy and get back to actually writing music.

The key now... for thrash/speed metal bands now, should be to delve into subgenres of music they never normally look into. Check out weird ideas, strange time signatures, unorthodox chords. Look into more progressive bands like Death, Cynic, Aethiest, Destruction, Coroner.

Getting back into singing and melody is an idea... but by being more melodic, i don't mean ''DURRRRRP MELODIK HARMONIES!!!111''
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#36
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Metal will be overrun by metalcore. its simply the sad truth.
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No it won't, you talk as if Metal is dying.
Not noticed the mass of new metal bands coming out in Britain, Europe and America?

Metalcore won't be around for many years to come. It's having its glory years now and won't get any bigger - also its very grow-out-of-able.

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You missed out on stoner/desert rock, generator parties will one day kick off bigtime, it just has to. Thanks to bands like Kyuss getting more popular due to the internet, jams where there's no stage, no theatrics, just the band right next to a small crowd playing all night will become bigger and bigger I hope. Here's a sweeeeeet example below, shame Garcia isn't singing at his best in that vid

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well in the last few decades the heaviest stuff has be coming from norway and that scandinavian area so if it does get faster and heavier look there. God only knows whats going on in the norweigian underground lol.

nothing really goes on there anymore. that was in the early/mid 90's.
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#40
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No it won't, you talk as if Metal is dying.
Not noticed the mass of new metal bands coming out in Britain, Europe and America?

Metalcore won't be around for many years to come. It's having its glory years now and won't get any bigger - also its very grow-out-of-able.

Long live Metal!

Yeah, I don't know what that kid's talking about. Metalcore is making it's exit, death metal is re-entering the arena. Things are about to get big. Really big.