#1
I used the search bar, but it never seems to do me any good.

I am about to be in a band that is calling itself deathcore, which the only band experience I have is a heavy punkish type thing, which was extremely boring since I prefer to play harder stuff and it just wasnt my cup of tea no matter how much I tryed to make it.

and I usually write stuff and it sounds more like atreyu than anything, and im trying to break out of this.

basically the question is, what kind of techniques can I put more into my writing to make it sound more umm heavy I guess, if you give me a cannibal corpse song for example I can learn it with some practice and after a few days ill have it down pat.

if I didnt like heavy stuff I wouldnt be joining a band like this, I just dont really have much experience in writing like crazy metal stuff.

thanks in advance for any help, if you didnt understand any of this ill try to explain it diffrently. and as far as my grammar or whatever it sucks I am horrible at making correct sentences so sorry.
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#2
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I used the search bar, but it never seems to do me any good.


Can't help you there I don't get it either

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I am about to be in a band that is calling itself deathcore, ... what kind of techniques can I put more into my writing to make it sound more heavy.


Try a lower tuning (D standard or C standard, my friend uses A standard but that's just too metal) and use lots of power chords on the 2 lowest strings...
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#3
The only thing I can recommend is that you go and learn these "deathcore" songs.
New To Town With A Made Up Name

In The Angel's City

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#4
be honest with you I dont really know what deathcore would be considered lol, and I do use drop c and d standard, but if someone could tell me some bands that would be considered "deathcore" that would help me alot more than hearing some techniques to use.
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#5
Loadsa palm muting.
Growls.
F*cks.
Squeals.
Blood.
Inverted Crosses.
Crazy-vocalist-blowing-his-brains-out-widda-shotgun-then-crazy-guitarist-pickling-and-eating-it
On a more serious note, palm muting on open strings, harmonics, tapping, powercords.

You don't necessarily need low tunings for ultra heavy stuff. Kreator's Behind The Mirror in in E Standard I think...
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be honest with you I dont really know what deathcore would be considered lol, and I do use drop c and d standard, but if someone could tell me some bands that would be considered "deathcore" that would help me alot more than hearing some techniques to use.


I'm sure wikipedia has a good list of deathcore bands.

Also, contrary to popular belief, lower tunings do not make your sound heavier. Your choice of notes determines heaviness.
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Can't help you there I don't get it either


Try a lower tuning (D standard or C standard, my friend uses A standard but that's just too metal) and use lots of power chords on the 2 lowest strings...



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Tunings don't make anything metal. TS, if it's "deathcore" then D standard or C standard won't really help. Use drop tunings; and no, drop A doesn't mean it's metal. The band Lamb of God uses drop D and no one's ever said that they aren't metal.

Don't bother with crazy arpeggios, use single notes but trem pick them. Like instead of 5-4-1 its 5555555-4444444444-11111111

Just play what comes to mind. Metal isn't the most complicated pieces of music.
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#9
I not a complete retard I know tuning doesnt make it heavier, but you cannot deny you can get lower in drop tunings(like open strings) but I stay in drop C as a preference not because I think if I play something in the tuning its metal, im not that bad off. and during my theory learning and the learning of the fretboard, scaled, ect. I was in drop C so it's far easier for me to just keep it that way, plus I like it better that way so why not.

and yeah I googled deathcore bands after seeing an earlier post, and I didnt know but I do listen to some bands that are considered deathcore, im just going to listen to more, and learn some songs and analyze the techniques they use in there playing and such.

thanks for the help UG!
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Tunings don't make anything metal. TS, if it's "deathcore" then D standard or C standard won't really help. Use drop tunings; and no, drop A doesn't mean it's metal. The band Lamb of God uses drop D and no one's ever said that they aren't metal.

Don't bother with crazy arpeggios, use single notes but trem pick them. Like instead of 5-4-1 its 5555555-4444444444-11111111

Just play what comes to mind. Metal isn't the most complicated pieces of music.


Plenty of people have said Lamb of God aren't metal; They're metalcore.

A better example would have been Opeth, who play (primarily) in E standard.
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Plenty of people have said Lamb of God aren't metal; They're metalcore.

A better example would have been Opeth, who play (primarily) in E standard.



Well, forget labels. Metalcore, deathcore, whatever, it should just be metal.

And yeah I was going to mention Opeth, but when you think about it, learning some Opeth isn't really deathcore material. Plus, I think they have more soft songs than brutalz.
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Well, forget labels. Metalcore, deathcore, whatever, it should just be metal.

And yeah I was going to mention Opeth, but when you think about it, learning some Opeth isn't really deathcore material. Plus, I think they have more soft songs than brutalz.


Most of their songs have a large dynamic range, with some very heavy sections, and some soft sections. That being said, they do have songs that are all soft (Coil, Isolation Years, Windowpane, etc...)
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Tunings don't make anything metal. TS, if it's "deathcore" then D standard or C standard won't really help. Use drop tunings; and no, drop A doesn't mean it's metal. The band Lamb of God uses drop D and no one's ever said that they aren't metal.

Don't bother with crazy arpeggios, use single notes but trem pick them. Like instead of 5-4-1 its 5555555-4444444444-11111111

Just play what comes to mind. Metal isn't the most complicated pieces of music.


I demand that you listen to Cynic and Atheist and then come back to me with that comment.
#15
ya, like mix tremolo picked 5-th string notes with heavy distortion with 6-th string root power chords.
and if u want to learn a 'deathcore' song, pick up the latest guitar world. they have bludgeoned to death by suicide silence, and the dvd that comes with it shows u how to play properly. u could also check out suicide silence's youtube channel, one of their guitarists shows u how to play unanswered