#1
Hey there! First post so sorry if it sounds a lil dumb but here it goes;

I'm buying a totally new guitar rig consisting of a Yamaha SA503 TVL, a Pod X3 Live and a certain amp which I really don't know what to pick.

It will be the first time I play with an amp simulator (X3), and it confuses me in the choice of my main amp. I know that you can plug the X3 straight into the P.A. and it can work well, but I need at least the warmth of a tube amp to get the tone I want.

My budget is about 500$ (don't care if it's used).

I tought about the Vox AD50 because it's damn cheap, but what's the point in getting an amp which has Amp simulation and FX as on the Pod?

Please help me, I play mainly rock music with a touch of metal, but I want to get good cleans also.
#2
B-52 At-112?

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#3
Why would you be considering an AD50 if you know you need a tube amp? A PA will work fine. But if you want a tube amp then consider something with decent cleans (not just because you want clean, but for the sake of the X3 as well) like a Fender Pro Jr or a Peavey Classic 30.
#5
Atomic Amps... It is MADE for modelers. It's a power tube section with a specially voiced colorless speaker.
#6
Quote by eXperiment63
Atomic Amps... It is MADE for modelers. It's a power tube section with a specially voiced colorless speaker.


Beat me to it, but the least I could do is add the link: http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-at-reactor.html
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#7
the atomic amp is the way to go
periphery/bulb!

gear:
Ibanez RG7321 w/ D-sonic in bridge

Peavey 5150 mk ii & b52 4x12 cab

line 6 podxt for recording

Quote by AsOneIStand
Head and Cab for $130? You don't need a head and cabinet, you need a psychological examination.
#8
You could pick up a Line 6 Spider Valve for $500 second-hand.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Line-6-Spider-Valve-Tube-Guitar-1x12-Amp_W0QQitemZ220444608178QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335385c6b2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

Here is the Atomic, although I've never personally tried it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOMIC-REACTOR-112-TUBE-AMPLIFIER-LINE-6-AMP-MODELER_W0QQitemZ260433963246QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca312e8ee&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

The Line6 Flextone III is worth looking into as it's tones are still very nice for an Solid State amp. You can pick one up for $350 on ebay, and then match it with a BBE Sonic Maximizer in the effects loop to help liven up the tone.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Line-6-Flextone-III-2x12-Modeling-Amp-w-Celestions-NR_W0QQitemZ360164233210QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item53db760ffa&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

Sonic Stomp:
http://cgi.ebay.com/BBE-SONIC-STOMP-SONIC-MAXIMIZER-PEDAL-NIB-NEW-IN-BOX_W0QQitemZ220440172282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item33534216fa&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1234|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

Also, try a Peavey Vypyr Tube 60:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Peavey-Vypyr-Tube-60-Guitar-Combo-Amplifier-60-Watts_W0QQitemZ110407551399QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b4cd89a7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
#9
^why would he get a modeling amp to use with a POD?
periphery/bulb!

gear:
Ibanez RG7321 w/ D-sonic in bridge

Peavey 5150 mk ii & b52 4x12 cab

line 6 podxt for recording

Quote by AsOneIStand
Head and Cab for $130? You don't need a head and cabinet, you need a psychological examination.
#11
ah i see. i actually forgot that he hadn't purchased it yet, my bad on that one. the flextone wouldn't be a great choice though, since the X3 live has pretty much the same amp models and much more, and the spidervalve just isnt very good to me, but idk. the vypyr tube might not be a bad idea, just depends on whether you prefer line 6 or peavey modeling
periphery/bulb!

gear:
Ibanez RG7321 w/ D-sonic in bridge

Peavey 5150 mk ii & b52 4x12 cab

line 6 podxt for recording

Quote by AsOneIStand
Head and Cab for $130? You don't need a head and cabinet, you need a psychological examination.
#12
I'm more in favour of Line 6 and have always liked their gear (even some tones from the old Spider SS's) but that's quite a personal thing, so it's all good.

#13
Thank you guys for te replies

I looked for the Atomic, and it looks good, but I don't really get the concept. That trap on the top is for a non-pedalboard Pod and such? And is it just me or there's not even a gain knob there?

Oh yeah and also, their website says that the 50w models are backorder...do they regularly make more or wut?
Last edited by patton686 at Jun 30, 2009,
#14
Also, I don't really care if my sound is "coloured" in another way, I just want an amp that will do what he has too, without paying for features that I already have on the X3.
#15
Which is why you don't want an amp with any color my friend. The speakers in the atomic are MADE for modeling. Modeling pedals and amps simulate cabinets, which sound like **** through another speaker compared to a colorless one.

And the 18 watter would be plenty loud. 18 watts of tube power is quite loud. And why would there be a gain knob on a power amp? There is a master volume. Gain is done in the preamp section. The more you push the power tubes with more volume the more 'gain' it will get.

And yes, the thing on top is for a non-pedal version of pods and the like. You can get a plain one since you have the X3 Live.