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#41
I think my favorite deathcore band would have to be JFAC. Idk, that was the band that got me into metal with Day in Black and in the end got me to play guitar. However I can't stand BMTH =[ Idk why it just bothers me
#42
Quote by Squifey
I don't find ABACABB that good, I mean, I've only listened to the second song on the album, "Infection" and it was alright, but I never want to listen to more.

Though I would recommend
The Red Chord
Whitechapel(first album)
Despised Icon
Beneath The Massacre
Within The Ruins


Heard one Deathcore song you've heard 'em all

I know all of those, but I haven't listened to any of them yet.
#43
Quote by The Kreator
Heard one Deathcore song you've heard 'em all

I know all of those, but I haven't listened to any of them yet.

Now that I think about it, you should listen to specific albums by the bands.
The Red Chord - Fused or Clients
Whitechapel - The Somatic Defilement
Despised Icon - The Ill's of Modern Man
Beneath The Massacre - Dystopia
Within The Ruins - Creature

Hope that helps!
#44
Quote by The Kreator
Awesome, thanks, but what in the world does ABACABB stand for?


ABACABB is the blood code in Mortal Combat.
Saw ABACABB with Suffokate, For The Fallen Dreams, Sworn Enemy and Bury Your Dead. Apparently the lead singer had a broken foot?


Its nice to see deathcore getting some love for once.

Does anyone consider the first two Underoath albums deathcore?
#49
Knights of the Abysss. 'nuff said. but seriously, i saw them last week. and got to hang out with them. pretty cool.
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#50
Quote by wh0racLe
How does Deathcore belong here any more than Metalcore does?

By the way deathcore is ****ing horrible.


Can you read?
#51
Quote by andyscoot
Can you read?


Yes, I can read this:

Forum for true metal. Death/ Black/ Gore/ Grind/ Power/ Gothic/ War etc. Dedicated to the most blasphemous and extreme metal bands!
#52
So why isnt it TRUE METAL?

EDIT:

Quote by Magero
Deathcore belongs in the metal forum, set out by many mods as a guideline.
No stupid "deathcore is gay" posts, I will report you. I'm sick of them.


Obviously can't read this can you.
Last edited by andyscoot at Jun 30, 2009,
#54
I'm not sure how to respond to this thread....

with rage? or apathy?
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That, or being absolutely broke - though you always find money for cigarettes, then end up even more broke.

so true ^.
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#55
Quote by wh0racLe


Contributing, I saw Veil of Maya live, I was really not impressed. The same repetitive groove throughout. Very boring. Especially since Decrepit Birth went on after. Then they saved it.
Does anyone else the parallel between Deathcore and Hair metal?
Think about it. Image-concious, repetitive music that all the scene kids like. It's exactly the same. It's amazing how we don't learn from history.
Last edited by ieatu at Jun 30, 2009,
#56
I think the only "deathcore" band I like is The Red Chord and that was when their first album came out. Didn't even know said genre existed at that point.

Oh, and Wikipedia says that deathcore is a subgenre of metalcore. If Wikipedia says it...
#57
So basically because of what they look like?

Wait a minute, dont you lot rag on Deathcore because they apparently focus too much on their image? Hypocrite much?
#58
Quote by andyscoot
So basically because of what they look like?

Wait a minute, dont you lot rag on Deathcore because they apparently focus too much on their image? Hypocrite much?


And the music, don't forget that the music sucks.
Last edited by ieatu at Jun 30, 2009,
#59
Quote by ieatu
And the music, don't forget the music.


His reason for why its not metal was their image.

But why isnt their music metal? Ive asked this to 4 different people and none of them could give me an answer, can you?
#61
Quote by andyscoot
His reason for why its not metal was their image.

But why isnt their music metal? Ive asked this to 4 different people and none of them could give me an answer, can you?


Because their music is repetitive,bland, boring, oversaturated, and overexposed. And it shouldn't be. It's a crime to let all the real bands that are actually creating music for music and not for a scene like Cynic, and Atheist, but sadly, these two bands get overlooked while Suicide Silence has another 2 million hits on their MySpace page. It's a sham. The fact that Deathcore is the end-all be all for a alot of kids is dissapointing, because then they won't want to dig deeper because it's not "brootal" enough. You get it? Some kids do, I haven't met them, but some kids more often than not don't, and stay ignorant. That's ****ing why.
#62
Quote by AnnihiSlateR
Im quite fond of Trigger the Bloodshed, who are often considered Deathcore


Not bad live, they're much better now they've decided to ditch their original Deathcore sound though.

Another local band I plug here from time to time, they're not quite Deathcore, but do hold a fair few elements of it, Ignominious Incarceration. I adore them.
Quote by DrewsGotTheLife
yea man, who ever doesnt like pantera or think they suck doesnt like metal, end of discussion, they changed the freakin world n made history, so don't be sayin they suck, have respect, same goes for machine head n lamb of god cuz their good too
#63
Quote by ieatu
Because their music is repetitive,bland, boring, oversaturated, and overexposed. And it shouldn't be. It's a crime to let all the real bands that are actually creating music for music and not for a scene like Cynic, and Atheist, but sadly, these two bands get overlooked while Suicide Silence has another 2 million hits on their MySpace page. It's a sham. The fact that Deathcore is the end-all be all for a alot of kids is dissapointing, because then they won't want to dig deeper because it's not "brootal" enough. You get it? Some kids do, I haven't met them, but some kids more often than not don't, and stay ignorant. That's ****ing why.

But by the same measure, will lots of kids not decide they want to explore the genre further, and find out about bands like Cynic and Atheist.

But the way I see this is, your issue with the genre is that it is Popular?
#64
Quote by ieatu
Because their music is repetitive,bland, boring, oversaturated, and overexposed. And it shouldn't be. It's a crime to let all the real bands that are actually creating music for music and not for a scene like Cynic, and Atheist, but sadly, these two bands get overlooked while Suicide Silence has another 2 million hits on their MySpace page. It's a sham. The fact that Deathcore is the end-all be all for a alot of kids is dissapointing, because then they won't want to dig deeper because it's not "brootal" enough. You get it? Some kids do, I haven't met them, but some kids more often than not don't, and stay ignorant. That's ****ing why.


So wait...its not metal because people like it? Right

Has it ever occured to you that people like it? Maybe Suicide Silence gets 2 million hits on myspace because they have a lot of fans. Its not a crime to make music people like. All youre managing to do is look like an elitist tool. And also, not telling my deathcore isnt metal.

Also, dont say its boring and bland when half of "true" metal is boring as **** too.
#65
Quote by AnnihiSlateR
But by the same measure, will lots of kids not decide they want to explore the genre further, and find out about bands like Cynic and Atheist.

But the way I see this is, your issue with the genre is that it is Popular?


I stated that, some kids do go farther, though it's a rarity.
My issue with it is that kids think it's the most brutal thing out there when it isn't. Sorry.
#66
Quote by ieatu
I stated that, some kids do go farther, though it's a rarity.
My issue with it is that kids think it's the most brutal thing out there when it isn't. Sorry.

Then surely your issue is with the fans, not the music then.
#67
Quote by ieatu
I stated that, some kids do go farther, though it's a rarity.
My issue with it is that kids think it's the most brutal thing out there when it isn't. Sorry.


But its brutal than most "true" metal...

Anyway thats besides the point. You cant dislike a genre because of their fans, or you can, but youre an idiot for doing so.

Also, you've yet to tell me why Deathcore isnt metal. And right now, im looking at moving it from 4 to 5 people who cant tell me why after making a stupid comment like that.
#68
ia m looking for some deathcore that has some avant garde elements to it, kinde like the track akeldama by faceless or some of the music of rareform by after the burial. can any one help me?
#69
Quote by andyscoot
So wait...its not metal because people like it? Right

Has it ever occured to you that people like it? Maybe Suicide Silence gets 2 million hits on myspace because they have a lot of fans. Its not a crime to make music people like. All youre managing to do is look like an elitist tool. And also, not telling my deathcore isnt metal.

Also, dont say its boring and bland when half of "true" metal is boring as **** too.


It occured to me that people who have no actual history of metal like it. A lot of fans, alot of people who only listen to what they are exposed, what's your point. No it's not a crime to make music people like, it's a loss of respect when you're doing it for a scene. I could care less if I look like an elitist tool, I stated my opinions as to why it's not metal.
It takes a deeper mind to appreciate subtlety.
#70
Quote by andyscoot


Anyway thats besides the point. You cant dislike a genre because of their fans, or you can, but youre an idiot for doing so.


Exactly, i Hate 90% of Manowar fans.
but I still like the bands music.
#71
Quote by AnnihiSlateR
Then surely your issue is with the fans, not the music then.


It's both the music and the fans. The fact that any kid can pick up a guitar and pretty much play any deathcore song kills me!
#72
After much consideration I have decided that I am against this thread.

Good day gentlemen.
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#73
Quote by ieatu
It occured to me that people who have no actual history of metal like it. A lot of fans, alot of people who only listen to what they are exposed, what's your point. No it's not a crime to make music people like, it's a loss of respect when you're doing it for a scene. I could care less if I look like an elitist tool, I stated my opinions as to why it's not metal.
It takes a deeper mind to appreciate subtlety.

So because it atracts fans who didnt like metal before?

so by bringing new people to the genre its a bad thing?
#74
Quote by AnnihiSlateR
So because it atracts fans who didnt like metal before?

so by bringing new people to the genre its a bad thing?


By bringing it to new people who think it's the last genre is a bad thing.
#75
Quote by ieatu
It's both the music and the fans. The fact that any kid can pick up a guitar and pretty much play any deathcore song kills me!

Lats time I checked that was called jealousy
Quote by ieatu
By bringing it to new people who think it's the last genre is a bad thing.

Im sory I dont realy understand your point here
#76
All youre doing is saying "Deathcore isn't metal because i hate their fans and their music is simple". You're basically complaining because not many people like the bands you like, and you still havent provided me with why the music of deathcore isnt metal. Well done.

Since when did technicality decide wether music is metal. In that case, Swallow The Sun aren't metal because their stuff is easy to play, and The Fall Of Troy is metal because its hard to play. See how stupid that sounds?

Also, who decided that music has to be technical. Am i some sort of dying breed of music fans that likes it if it sounds good?
#77
Quote by AnnihiSlateR
Lats time I checked that was called jealousy

Im sory I dont realy understand your point here


Yes, I'm totally jealous.

My point is usually Deathcore kids never get around to listening to other forms of metal because it doesn't have a breakdown in it.
#78
Deathcore is the Hair Metal of our generation.

You think these bands are putting effort into the music? If they did it would have more than just half-assed chromatic riffs and repetitive breakdowns. The bands know what they are doing, they are making music specifically to appeal to scene kids. They are riding the trend. They aren't expressing themselves and creating what they think is truly good music. It's just trendy crap.

And the fans... the fans don't give a **** about music. They care more about how bad-ass they look. If there was no tattoo's, hairspray, and lyrics like "THE DOCTORS WON'T BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE YOUR F*CKIN' FACE!!" i don't think deathcore would be popular at all


Quote by andyscoot
So basically because of what they look like?

Wait a minute, dont you lot rag on Deathcore because they apparently focus too much on their image? Hypocrite much?


Because they spend more time styling their hair and putting on makeup than they do writing music.


Quote by andyscoot


Also, who decided that music has to be technical. Am i some sort of dying breed of music fans that likes it if it sounds good?


no you're a breed of moronic teenager who responds to an argument that no one made.
Last edited by wh0racLe at Jun 30, 2009,
#79
Quote by andyscoot
All youre doing is saying "Deathcore isn't metal because i hate their fans and their music is simple". You're basically complaining because not many people like the bands you like, and you still havent provided me with why the music of deathcore isnt metal. Well done.

Since when did technicality decide wether music is metal. In that case, Swallow The Sun aren't metal because their stuff is easy to play, and The Fall Of Troy is metal because its hard to play. See how stupid that sounds?

Also, who decided that music has to be technical. Am i some sort of dying breed of music fans that likes it if it sounds good?


It doesn't really have to be technical, but for me it has to have an air of subtlety, and that's one thing that I've never heard in a deathcore song. Quit acting like a ****ing victim who "appreciates" sounds and ****. Nirvana made sound but would you call it good?
If you really want to listen to an artist who based their music primarily on JUST SOUNDS, listen to Frank Zappa. That' is all.
#80
You guys are so far from the truth its hilarious. Come back when youve heard more than one Deathcore song. You dont know anything about the genre or their fans.

Quote by ieatu
It doesn't really have to be technical, but for me it has to have an air of subtlety, and that's one thing that I've never heard in a deathcore song. Quit acting like a ****ing victim who "appreciates" sounds and ****. Nirvana made sound but would you call it good?
If you really want to listen to an artist who based their music primarily on JUST SOUNDS, listen to Frank Zappa. That' is all.


I'm not, im saying i like music if it sounds good to me. Not if im supposed to like it, or supposed to not like it. And i happen to like Nirvana...so yes i would call them good.
Last edited by andyscoot at Jun 30, 2009,