#1
Hey guys, new user here, just wondering if it is possible, and if so how hard it would be, to replace my Ibanez RG's Edge III trem with a ZR
#2
Huh.
I'm not sure if it would fit, you MAY have to do minimal routing.
Dibs on the old trem?


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#3
If the ZR does fit, I'd be fine with parting with the Edge III. If you're willing, I'd like to get at least a little money for it to cover the cost of the new ZR (I have no job and thus little money)

EDIT: My current trem is black, if that matters to you
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#4
I'm not entirely sure if this article helps, but I believe it tells you what can be swapped for what.

http://lawl.net/gtr/trems

I don't have the time to read this whole article, but I hope it helps man.
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If the ZR does fit, I'd be fine with parting with the Edge III. If you're willing, I'd like to get at least a little money for it to cover the cost of the new ZR (I have no job and thus little money)

EDIT: My current trem is black, if that matters to you


Yeah man, I understand. Even if it doesn't fit, it isn't that hard to route out a little wood for it. PM me when you get the chance.


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#6
Thanks for the link, man. It didn't confirm or deny whether this swap will work, but I saw another option in its list: the Edge Zero. It sounds like it works like the ZR, but its name suggests it might be closer in shape to an Edge III. Anyone know if this swap would make more sense?

EDIT: and to Scowmoo: yeah, if I end up taking the Edge III out, I'll PM you
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#7
Oh, and if I do make a swap, would I just buy it off ebay, or is there a better site?
#8
An OFR should be a direct swap with an edge III and on par in quality with an edge,edge pro,lo pro etc(the great ibanez trems)
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#9
The reason I was was looking at the ZR was because I want to be able to change between E and drop D tuning, without blocking the up-bends (like the EVH d-tuna does), and I was under the impression that using fine-tuners, you could do this on a ZR without making the other strings go out of tune. I don't know if there is an OFR like that or not, and actually I'm not really sure if the ZR can do what I want it to do. Any general info in regards to these topics would be greatly appreciated.

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#10
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I'm not entirely sure if this article helps, but I believe it tells you what can be swapped for what.

http://lawl.net/gtr/trems

I don't have the time to read this whole article, but I hope it helps man.

There's the answer.

You COULD replace it, but it would be more work than it would be worth.

Also, it's not the ZR trem itself, but the Zero resistance SYSTEM that lets you do those tuning changes without upsetting anything.
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#11
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You COULD replace it, but it would be more work than it would be worth.

Also, it's not the ZR trem itself, but the Zero resistance SYSTEM that lets you do those tuning changes without upsetting anything.


Thanks. And about the whole "system" thing... what exactly do you mean? Do you mean I can just use the ZPS or whatever its called in my Edge III, or in an OFR?

EDIT: maybe we mean different things when we say trem. I mean the whole bridge. Did you think I just meant the bar when I said that?
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#12
No, I meant the tremolo itself, the ZPS is separate from the ZR. you could, but you'd have to rout out a large cavity for the ZPS.
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#13
so the mounting studs are the same?
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#14
Possible? Sure.

Staight swap? Not even close. I wouldn't bother, considering the effort and costs involved.
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#15
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An OFR should be a direct swap with an edge III and on par in quality with an edge,edge pro,lo pro etc(the great ibanez trems)

One problem, the RG has a radius of nearly 16" while the OFR is 10". You might consider an inch or two radius differential, but that great of a change is going to make it play goofy.

I'd say rather than spending $150+, more for routing if you need to and can't do it yourself, and a lot of dicking around with the RG, just buy a new guitar. You're already willing to spend close to $200 on a new trem, you could probably get another $250+ at least for the RG then you'd be set to buy a used guitar with a decent trem, or a little bit more and you can buy a brand new one.
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#16
the ZPS system is only $30 at IbanezRules.com.
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the ZPS system is only $30 at IbanezRules.com.

yeah, but dude think about how much routing you'd have to do.
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#18
does anyone know about the stud spacing of the ZR will match? i dont mind routing for it.
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#19
Nah, email Ibanez and ask for the dimensions.
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Nah, email Ibanez and ask for the dimensions.



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#22
I'd say, there's probably a higher chance it's be an easier job to route an RG321 for a ZR than sticking one in an Edge III route, it'd be a lotta work.
#23
Hmm. Well, thanks for the info, guys.

BTW, when I have enough money for a new guitar, is there a good, non-floating trem I could look into? Because I dont use whammy that often and the ability to change tunings is much more important to me. Mostly I just play my epi explorer and ignore parts of songs when I should use the whammy.
#24
just get one with an FR and block it to dive only. because most other trems will have some tuning problems so floyds, or double-lockings in general, usually hold tune REALLY well. so blocking it would be the best option.
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#25
There's a thread on this on the projectguitar forums, someone did nearly exactly the same thing.
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#26
While looking around I saw something i hadn't seen before: hipshot tremsetter. It says it allows tuning changes without blocking trem. Worth it?
#27
i'm pretty sure you couldnt, you'd need to plug the whole cavity and start from scratch and figure out the rout. you'd need to be real good with a router and planing everything out, prettymuch you have to design your own cavity to accommodate for the ZR.. its different.
#28
changing to the zr trem would probably screw with the scale length too
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#29
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Hmm. Well, thanks for the info, guys.

BTW, when I have enough money for a new guitar, is there a good, non-floating trem I could look into? Because I dont use whammy that often and the ability to change tunings is much more important to me. Mostly I just play my epi explorer and ignore parts of songs when I should use the whammy.

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Adam S3A monitors
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