#1
So everytime i try to write some kind of riff, ill like it at first then when i go back and look at it, i hate it! How do i get past this?
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#2
Are you looking back and hating it because it lacks technicality?? I was in that phrase awhile back, now I just listen and trust my ear. Sometimes the simplest riffs can have the biggest impact. IMO, just save it all in your riffs arsenal, never know, that riff you hate can be useful.
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#3
well its just a matter of composing. sometimes you will write things that are utter **** and other times you can write some really amazing stuff. the more write the better you will be at it
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#4
Write better riffs

No, seriously, as you compose more and learn more about music, your riffs and compositions will (hopefully) get better. Just keep working at it. Theory helps too, though it's not necessary.
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Are you looking back and hating it because it lacks technicality?? I was in that phrase awhile back, now I just listen and trust my ear. Sometimes the simplest riffs can have the biggest impact. IMO, just save it all in your riffs arsenal, never know, that riff you hate can be useful.



somewhat, but its mainly cause i dont like the sound, subconsiously i want it to sound like whatever band i happen to be listening to so i dont like it.

when i say subconcious i mean, i make myself think i dont like it cause it doesnt sound right.
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#6
David Gilmour much?

It happens TS. I can't tell you how many things I've composed and I look back on them a week... a month, and give it a sour look and understand how I created everything, but no longer interested in it anymore. Constantly moving in music and changing. I'd say it's normal for musicians to experience it.
#7
David Gilmour has this problem?
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#8
I have this problem a lot too.
I've always thought that I start to dislike it because I've repeated it too much.
I don't know about you, but if I have drums or bass backing me up, my riffs sound like 300% cooler, even if they are just plain power chords.
#9
Well, i have that problem.. Well, i don't really considered it a problem, i'll live through, but aye, i have this thing, if i sit and fool around, trying to come up with good riffs, suddenly i'll play something, and i'll think "HOLY ****ING ****, HOW DID I DO THAT", then i'll play it again, and after i've played it through a couple of times, it is not worthy of my attention, nor a song. Even though i think they are mainly good riffs, i just don't like them.

Another thing is that i forget much (DRUGS ARE BAAAAD), and i'll noodle around, play something completely awesome, try to do it again, but fail.. Even though it's just a string of notes or something. I just.. forget.. the horror.
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Well, i have that problem.. Well, i don't really considered it a problem, i'll live through, but aye, i have this thing, if i sit and fool around, trying to come up with good riffs, suddenly i'll play something, and i'll think "HOLY ****ING ****, HOW DID I DO THAT", then i'll play it again, and after i've played it through a couple of times, it is not worthy of my attention, nor a song. Even though i think they are mainly good riffs, i just don't like them.

Another thing is that i forget much (DRUGS ARE BAAAAD), and i'll noodle around, play something completely awesome, try to do it again, but fail.. Even though it's just a string of notes or something. I just.. forget.. the horror.



Well the solution to you forgetting when noodling is to ALWAYS record yourself, may seem a bit silly to record even when noodling but if this happens to you frequently then i guess it could save you some good ideas. It also helps you get a better idea of how you sound when you play.
#11
I hate all the guitar parts for my bands songs
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#12
Same thing happens to me. I don't think anyone is too fond of their own music
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#13
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Same thing happens to me. I don't think anyone is too fond of their own music

I'm pretty attached to my music, in fact my favorite band was my band.
it takes me months to finish a song to where it is absolutley perfect.
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Same thing happens to me. I don't think anyone is too fond of their own music


i dig my own music, my problem is that once i think it's done i go and critique it like i would someone elses song. then i'd say "if i was just listening to this how would i change it" i'll often do that 4 or 5 times (or more) before arriving to a point where i say "nope i wouldn't do anything else to it"

someone else said "stop writing cr@ppy riffs" this is pretty much true. i've been writing music for 10 years now give or take and i still dont like all the stuff i write or even if i do like it sometimes i can't connect with it musically like i'd want to. just keep writing and experimenting and the more you do it, the better you'll get at it.
#15
I am somewhat like that. When I listen to stuff I recorded in October-November of last year it sounds like chaotic garbage to me but the stuff I write now sounds good. I think the reason why is I stopped listening to the bands previously mentioned and started listening to calmer bands which turned out giving results that pleased me.

I think you should listen to different bands for a few weeks and then write songs in their styles, Then compare that new material to your old material and ask yourself what you like more. Listen to bands you don't think you'll like long enough and you may end up liking them, It took me almost two months to get into The New Pornographers after I bought some of their CDs but now they're one of my favorite bands.
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Same thing happens to me. I don't think anyone is too fond of their own music


No thats false. Im normally pretty satisfied with most solos I play.

My advice is:

Theory is only half the equation. It lets you know what notes sound good over what kind of music etc. But just playing through scales gets old. Learn phrasing. Learn what notes to end a phrase on. It really can make all the difference. Also, try making a chord progression then playing over that. It will help give you new ideas and help along your playing very much.
#17
I'm really interested that most of you enjoy your own works actually. I've read several interviews with some brilliant musicians where they state that they don't like listening to their own music. Scott walker point blank refuses to listen to his tracks ever again once they've been finished.

I often find that when my initial enthusiasm for a track wears off the writing/recording process becomes tiresome and I either abandon it or start taking shortcuts to get it finished unless it's something really important like school coursework or if people are encouraging me to finish usually band members or friends/family who I let listen to my work.
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#18
^ my music is like my children. i'd never write a song just to file it away to not be listened to

i like listening to my stuff for inspiration and to pick out problems with my playing. also to think "what else could i have done with that" also, i find my music enjoyable, i write stuff that i would want to hear if i popped a cd in or turned on the radio.
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^ my music is like my children. i'd never write a song just to file it away to not be listened to

i write stuff that i would want to hear if i popped a cd in or turned on the radio.


exactly, imho you shoud be your favorite artist, as your work is influenced by all your 2nd favorite bands. i put GP files of my work on loop so i can hear it all the time.
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#20
thats just normal for everyone you cant make good riffs everytime. but that happens to me too, i write a riff i like but the day after i dont. its just normal i guess
#21
I have never felt my riffs were as appealing as other artist's riffs, but I always wished they were and that someone would confirm.
#22
^ don't sweat it lol, assume they're not terrible until someone you don't know tells you otherwise. i usually think my stuff is awful even when people tell me they dig it
#23
Especially with the Pentatonic...some days you will make riffs that sound like sex..
others...you will make flaming turds.

Learn as much as you can about diverse kinds of music and you will be better.
This is just something you have to suffer through. I know some will debate my
next statement heavily..but when I'm having a bad day..I just keep going anyway.

Keep in mind...Most of the biggest hits were simple.

I can play alot of stuff...but *Bulls on Parade* is probably the most fun for me.
That song isn't going to impress alot of people.
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^ don't sweat it lol, assume they're not terrible until someone you don't know tells you otherwise. i usually think my stuff is awful even when people tell me they dig it

on the contrary...the first time somebody told me i sound bad i was really excited.
At least I didnt sound like **** anymore..lol
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#24
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I have never felt my riffs were as appealing as other artist's riffs, but I always wished they were and that someone would confirm.


Me too, actually. I keep having this sinking feeling that the riffs I write will never seem as amazing as other artists simply because I wrote them. To someone else, they could be anything.
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#25
It's just apart of the riff making process. The more you create, chances are the more you are going to make profit for yourself. I usually picture two different bands/sounds and cram them together along with the power of theory.

Theory makes a big impact on your creating process.