#1
Hey y'all

So sad news, im selling my Laney VC-30 tbh i never use it and its just too loud for what i need. So with the money im looking to get a small all-valve/tube amp, the smallest really. Obviously the cliche to buy is the Epi valve Junior and thats what im looking at. But before i buy i thought it best to concsult you guise. Am i making a mistake? Is there a better bang for my buck?
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#2
What music do you play?

I'd say Blackstar HT-5 or Vox AC4TV.
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#3
blackheart little giant ?
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#4
Budget and genres?

The above 3 are great suggestions though.

EDIT: Just noticed you said smallest, the Vox AC4TV is switchable from 4 watts to 1 and down to 1/4 watt
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Blackstar clips do sound awesome. check out the blackstar thread. Dont get a Valve Jr unless you want to mod the **** out of it.
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#7
depends on what you play, but if you need some power tube overdrive, you'd probably want something with variable wattage or power scaling. even 5 watts cranked up is really loud for home practice.
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#8
Valve Juniors are very passe now, and not as good considering what else is available. If you want similar tone to the Laney, look into the Blackheart Little Giant. If you want better tone, get the Vox AC-4. It is Godly. The Blackstar is another good option, particularly if you want some extra features you might otherwise miss. What is your budget though? There are some excellent companies out there like E.V.A. who do a decent great line of low watt amps.
#9
5 watts is still very loud indeed. Cornell offer an amp that goes from 15 to 4 to 0.3 watts I think. but they are expensive. I'm pointing it out because it's something you need to cogitate on. that going from 30 watts to 5 watts is not necessarily instantly going to give you that much better, driven tone retained in practise volumes. It will certainly be easier to find those natural tones, but maybe not enough to warrant selling and re-buying.
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I'm pointing it out because it's something you need to cogitate on. that going from 30 watts to 5 watts is not necessarily instantly going to give you that much better, driven tone retained in practise volumes. It will certainly be easier to find those natural tones, but maybe not enough to warrant selling and re-buying.


agreed wholeheartedly- especially if you move from a 30 watt amp with a master volume to a 5 watt amp without one (the valve junior), it's very likely you'll get more drive out of the laney at bedroom volumes! Certainly i can get distortion at much more civilised volumes with my master volume engl (which is 100 watts) than my valve junior (which is 5, but which has no master volume).

I also agree with greggy's point about VJs being a bit passé- when they were released, there weren't too many other good-value options available, but that's not the case now, you have a LOT more options. that vox ac4 is probably worth a try, considering it has the variable wattage, but i haven't tried it yet.
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#11
Vox AC4TV: Amazing overdriven sounds a low volumes, thanks to the power scaling (?).
Fender Vibro Champ XD: Great range of tones, built in effects are nice sounding too.
Fender Champ 600: great, simple amp.
Blackstar HT-5: like the AC4, great overdriven sounds a low volumes. has way more features, though.
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Vix night rain is a 15 watt head, so even with the smallest cab its going to be too loud
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#14
Id go for the Blackstar HT-5
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#16
Another higher end option could be the Cornell Plexi Seven, switchable from 7 to 2, to 0.25w.

Having said that, as a former and future Vox AC4 owner, I would recommend it over anything else, especially for the price.
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it can be switched to operate at 7.5 watts.


Still way too loud and expensive for a pratice amp.
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#18
I've tried the VJ and the Vox AC4TV. With the power scaling and better tone, the Vox wins hands down.
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#19
orange tiny terror or a eganter rebel 20 with a 1X12 cab?

have a 1X12 for practice, a 2X12 or 4X12 for gigs
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#22
A Valve Jr isn't going to get you anywhere unless you put pedals in front of it. I just bought a Fender Champ XD and it's compact and versatile. You don't really get great tone out of anything at low volumes. But the XD can give you as much gain as you need with a master volume to keep the level down. Plus it has reverb, delay, chorus, tremolo, and rotating speaker FX.