#1
Hi guys,

I'm going to purchase a Les Paul Standard Epi, thing is, I don't want to take the leap before I know what manufacurers are good, reliable and don't do a half assed job.

I found this:

The manufacturer can usually be identified from the letters at the head of the serial number as below.
[though there are one or two anomolies which don't fit].
The list only applies to "standard" range models and does not cover the Elitist or Japanese production which have different ID markings and other means of identification ]

DW = DaeWon (China)
EA = Gibson/QuingDao (China) Acoustics
EE = Gibson/QuingDao (China) Electrics
MC = Muse (China)
SJ = SaeJung (China)
I = Saein [Often referred to as "shine" ] (Korea)
R = Peerless (Korea)
S = Samick (Korea)
U = Unsung (Korea)
B = Bohêmia Musico-Delicia (Czech Republic)
F = Fine Guitars Plant, Korea


If anyone can guide me in the right direction I'd be very happy. But I guarantee that the model I'm looking at won't be mentioned! It's what we like to call in the U.K. "Sod's Law!".

Many thanks for your help,
Jonathan
#2
I don't think it matters much. Just go to a guitar store and pick one up if you can. If you can't, order from MF or something and send it back if its crappy.

Usually a good setup can fix most out of the box problems. However, if its something major out of the box like a truss rod adjustment or something like that, you may want to send it back.
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#3
Ok, well I've been playing for 12 years now, with a three year hiatus before June 2009, but I'm not confident I'll know how to identify truss rod problems etc. Any advice?

I've got a good guy that will do a service for me if I need it, but I just want to be sure y'know.

Thanks for the quick response BTW.
#4
shouldn't matter much, though korean made guitars are usually better quality.
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#5
It isn't much of a leap to be honest.
They're solid guitars. If you can go to the nearest Guitar Center, Sam Ash, etc. and keep asking them to bring you a new one until you find one you like. They'll help you out gladly because you're actually purchasing something instead of just playing Sweet Child o' Mine in the wrong key like everyone else in the building.
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i heard korean are the best , but is can just be a rumor
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shouldn't matter much, though korean made guitars are usually better quality.

Yeah that's what I thought, cheers.

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It isn't much of a leap to be honest.
They're solid guitars. If you can go to the nearest Guitar Center, Sam Ash, etc. and keep asking them to bring you a new one until you find one you like. They'll help you out gladly because you're actually purchasing something instead of just playing Sweet Child o' Mine in the wrong key like everyone else in the building.

Well, I know exactly what I want, but the one in the shop doesn't have the right wood grain for my tastes. Because it's a trans sunburst the woodgrain comes through beautifully, but for some reason, one half of the maple top has lost it's grain completely. Looking at other sources on the web, there are some nice tops out there where the grain is perfect, so it's just a matter of waiting for the perfect one for me as you say.

Call me picky but it's my money innit!
#10
Epi's don't have tops. They have veneer. Good luck if you like that sort of thing.
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#11
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Epi's don't have tops. They have veneer. Good luck if you like that sort of thing.

Veneer!? the guy in the shop said it was maple top with solid mahogony body. But that's salesmen for you innit! Ok second thoughts are creeping in now!

That a hint of doubt I hear in your tone!?! Is there something you wanna share about epi's before I blow nearl £400 on one!
#13
At that price it should be a mahogany body with a maple top and a quilted or flamed maple veneer.

If i'm not mistaken, the price of the model will generally reflect what factory it was made in, so i don't think you have to worry. Besides, as long as you think it sounds and feels good, who gives a crap?
#14
Agreed! Thanks for the help, it's very much appreciated. If and when I take the plunge, I'll post pictures of my new found axe!
#15
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Agreed! Thanks for the help, it's very much appreciated. If and when I take the plunge, I'll post pictures of my new found axe!

You better, because as the fairly new saying goes: "Pics or it's a Devries custom!"

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You better, because as the fairly new saying goes: "Pics or it's a Devries custom!"



hey man devries custom are good and they can defy the physics of i think it was getting 600watt from a 300watt amp by having it in stereo or something to do with his power amp being solid state and **** and it being the greatest metal amp in the world. oh and it's a randall g2 rh300 i think
#17
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You better, because as the fairly new saying goes: "Pics or it's a Devries custom!"


lol cheers!
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hey man devries custom are good and they can defy the physics of i think it was getting 600watt from a 300watt amp by having it in stereo or something to do with his power amp being solid state and **** and it being the greatest metal amp in the world. oh and it's a randall g2 rh300 i think

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#19
The OP question only has one answer: all the Epis are made in the same place now, so you have no choice, it's China (EE) all the way.

Though if you look on the used market, some of the older Korean models still turn up from time to time, try those.

Quote by Lurcher
Epi's don't have tops. They have veneer. Good luck if you like that sort of thing.
Epi's do have full maple tops. However on Plus Top models they get a flame maple veneer over the rock maple top (compared to a full flame maple top as used on Gibsons). Quilt Tops are the same deal, rock maple cap with a quilt veneer. Plain Tops are solid rock maple throughout, the only difference between Plain Top and Standard is just the Plain Top is what it's called when it has a transparent or dye finish while it's just a Standard when it has a solid finish.
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