#1
I have been working all summer and I am going to buy a new guitar that is between $500.00 and $700.00. Anyway, I have already brought my choice down to two guitars. A $500.00 Epiphone 56' Goldtop Reissue, which comes with a free hard case, or a Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top. The Standard is $50.00 more than 56', and I have to buy a case for that. The more money I save, the better...

Which guitar do you prefer? And will I still be able to get that nice warm tone [Like most Les Pauls] with the goldtop? What with the P-90 pickups... I am going to try the guitars before I buy one, but I am still working and do not have time right now.

Thanks...
#2
dude...epi ****ing sucks.

buy an esp. for 600 you can get active emg pickups, a faster neck, locking tuners, and better wood and quality.
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#3
Quote by eetfuk58
dude...epi ****ing sucks.

buy an esp. for 600 you can get active emg pickups, a faster neck, locking tuners, and better wood and quality.


+1

Or look into the Ibanez ART or Agiles
#5
It depends. ESP is a Metal brand (98% of their guitars...) If you are looking to play metal with your Les Paul, then go for the ESP, but if you are looking for a more classic rock sound or just a guitar that is versatile and suits several musical styles, then go for an Epiphone. I would recommend you the Standard, although I really like the Studio epiphones.
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#7
Quote by The3818919
Sorry, I had failed to mention that I mostly play Blues and Classic rock...

well then its easy! go for the LP Goldtop, or those ESP PB guitars with the S.Duncan P-rails or ESPs xtone semi hollow and hollow body guitars.
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#8
I have a standard, and it sounds and plays great. The P-90's are going to sound moar like single coils and have a lot of noise, probably want to invest in some better ones if you go for the goldtop.
#9
yeah i think the new slash model is down to $700 now. from $1000. pretty good deal i think. if not i love the custom
#11
i personally prefer the epiphone '56 goldtop to the standard for a simple reason: The P-90s don't sound muddy like the humbuckers epiphone use. Regardless of preference it's just a better sounding guitar out of the box. And it should at least work for the classic les paul sound even though it will sound and feel a little different. The P-90s will still give it that full bodied warm resonant tone the les paul is famous for, but it will also have a lot more "chime" to the sound on a clean setting which can be very effective and i think actually makes it a lot more versatile.

^the only thing better than epiphone about the PRS SE series is the pickups imo.
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Quote by Blompcube
\^the only thing better than epiphone about the PRS SE series is the pickups imo.


i guess it is a matter of opinion but the prs seems to be better put together than any epi i have tried (despite its more simplistic appearance)
#13
Quote by eetfuk58
dude...epi ****ing sucks.

buy an esp. for 600 you can get active emg pickups, a faster neck, locking tuners, and better wood and quality.


Epi don't "fucking suck"

They're actually really good for the price range better the ESP/Ltd's.

I would go for the Goldtop for you.

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#14
The Epi Goldtop, for sure.
The sound of P90s in blues, is brilliant.

If you need proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4mMYqr__K0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApbOc39A0xY

Lollar Pikcups make an exact copy of the P90s on Seans guitar, (It was a Vintage '53 model...) I'm planning to get an Epiphone (Or a Tokai or Edwards guitar. These might be worth looking into if you can, because they're the same quality as Gibson guitars, but you might get one in your price range... Made in Japan, needs to be purchased on Ebay.)
#15
It also kind of depends on the look.

For example, I really hate the look of Goldtops (It's probably just me). I'd rather take a plus top and jam P90s in it.
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#16
Quote by eetfuk58
dude...epi ****ing sucks.

buy an esp. for 600 you can get active emg pickups, a faster neck, locking tuners, and better wood and quality.

Tired of hearing this lot of BS.

Get your toes out from under tongue boy. I own an Epi Paul custom and it sounds (and plays) fantastic. EMG pickups are over-rated, "fast neck" is a matter of opinion and locking tuners don't even make a guitar better.

For the kind of music you wanna play dude, either axe works great. Les Pauls are heavy, solid guitars and they sing pretty well. It's too bad that they get trashed because they carry "Epiphone" around on their headstock. I woudln't trade my Paul for anything else.
#17
Quote by no_thing101
i guess it is a matter of opinion but the prs seems to be better put together than any epi i have tried (despite its more simplistic appearance)

well, they are a little better than some epiphones have been lately, but you can easily get a used korean made epiphone for an absolute bargain, because not a lot of people looking at guitars in that price range have any concept of the possibility that a guitar can look the same but be any different. It's just another epiphone, according to them, when actually, a 1990s epiphone is likely to be a whole lot better than anything you'll find brand new for the price you pay - my '98 epiphone sheraton cost me £270 including a hardshell case and is just as good as, if not better than anything i could've paid about £600 for.

also some brand new epis are on par build wise. but every PRS SE i played sounded considerably better, and i blame the junky epiphone stock pickups. I just think there's not a lot in it.

I also think the '56 goldtop is one of the most worthwhile epiphone guitars at the moment as it doesn't suffer from cheap humbucker muddiness syndrome due to the lack of humbuckers
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Last edited by Blompcube at Jul 4, 2009,
#18
Quote by eetfuk58
dude...epi ****ing sucks.

buy an esp. for 600 you can get active emg pickups, a faster neck, locking tuners, and better wood and quality.
too bad not everyone wants emg pickups
#19
Really it comes down to preference my prefernce is the standard because I have an AC30 and it has all the chime I can handle so P-90s don't make sense but thats just me, both are great guitars and both will suit your styles well, just comes down to which you prefer. And you will probably have to get new pickups down the road on either of them.
Oh and not everybody one wants lifeless, high gain, super br00talzz, unversatile EMG pickups or a super fast shreding neck.
OH and Blompcube is right about the Korean made Epiphones they are much better guitars and a great deal. Got mine for $350 barely touched, new tuners, and a hardshell case.
Last edited by Rhoads_1096 at Jul 4, 2009,
#20
Thanks, I think I might go with the Goldtop. If the P-90's are as good for blues as everone says, than that is a $500.00 well spent.
#21
my honest opinion is that humbuckers are more versatile than P-90s, for no reason other than that you have such a wide variety of humbuckers to choose from, in addition to humbucker sized P-90s.

And imo, the PAF pickup is the best blues pickup out there, and there are just numerous takes on the PAF by endless pickup winders that it's almost impossible not to be satisfied with getting the sound you want.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GD_QfZIEac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJYmzfxnmEE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKXcHbURovI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD4Wti9REo4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nre-ddVAsaQ

^Some great PAF replicas
Last edited by al112987 at Jul 4, 2009,
#22
P-90s seem quite versatile I haven't played them before but tony iommi used them for early sabbath stuff and blues guys use em a lot so the p-90s seem like a good way to go. But also to tht guy who sed u can get the ESP with active emgs emgs aren't very versatile at all.they are basically just for hard rock and metal.
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#23
Quote by al112987
my honest opinion is that humbuckers are more versatile than P-90s, for no reason other than that you have such a wide variety of humbuckers to choose from, in addition to humbucker sized P-90s.

And imo, the PAF pickup is the best blues pickup out there, and there are just numerous takes on the PAF by endless pickup winders that it's almost impossible not to be satisfied with getting the sound you want.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GD_QfZIEac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJYmzfxnmEE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKXcHbURovI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD4Wti9REo4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nre-ddVAsaQ

^Some great PAF replicas


What does versatility have to do with anything?
The PAF, is a good blues pickup, but far from the best.
And, it's very easy not to get satisfied, as he most likely isn't looking for a Humbucker tone. For Blues and bluesrock, P90s are the perfect middle ground.