#1
Hey everyone!
I remember just posting on this forum like once a long time ago.

I found, well my friend found a Mansfield guitar in his closet or basement.
It's a Les Paul Copy and it looks pretty worn out.
Broken Tuners, the bridge is loosing the gold colour, missing screws, dents, nicks, and what not.

I'll definitely post some pictures later, dont' have my camera on me right now.

Do you people think it's worth fixing? So far i was thinking about replacing the bridge and tailpiece and definitely getting new screws.

ALSO, i barely know about the company, but i read some things about it manufacturing Ibanez guitars too in the distant past? It'd be awesome if someone could tell me about the company too.

Thanks alot = D

Here Are Some Pictures of it .











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#3
I actually don't really know what to do with it.

How do i redress the frets?
I noticed it turned kinda green, How do i get rid of that?

Any pickup recommendations?
#5
google is your friend. there are enough Pickup recomendation threads on here that you can at least point us in the proper direction you want in terms of sound.
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#7
the fact that it's "Made In Japan" leads me to believe it's probably a quality LP Copy. i would just spend a few bucks on some cleaner to clean it up a bit and some strings too. play it for a few days to get a good feel of what it will need.

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#9
replacing hardware like tuner is easy: you take the old ones off, and put the new ones on.

go for it man. i just redid my squier, and i had always been afraid of doing something to a guitar, but i found that it was pretty darn easy to do, even rewiring was pretty simple. just ask on here, search google, and just stick around this forum in general because you'll learn things just from reading other threads. you'll also begin to recognize regulars who can help you out alot
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#10
Looks to me like one of the japaneese "lawsuit" guitars from the 70s. They were regarded as being better than the actual US makers of the time in terms of quality. In fact fender were so annoyed at one japaneese maker's quality and accuracy of their strat copies, they bought the factory and called it "fender Japan"!

This is totally worth fixing up. As has been said, whack a new set of strings on there, sort out the truss rod and that then see if it's a good player. If it is then replace all the parts that don't work and you should have a nice guitar.
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#11
Thanks for all your comments. I'd string it up but there are a few problems.
The bridge is missing some parts, . But the parts you use for intonation are missing for the d and g string & the tuners are broken. It had a remaining 6th and 5th string on it. Sounds pretty sturdy and solid. But the frets look pretty warn out.

Anyways. so i proceeded to remove the tuners and also the tail piece and the bridge.
Should i remove the bushings so i could put new one's in? These bushings are probably...40 years old if it was really made in 1970s.
I tried the "drop screw in and then put a thread in and turn so the bushing comes up" .. that did not happen. all i heard were little cracks so i stopped. and i realised that the screw got pushed into the wood and now it's .. pretty much stuck ..

Is there any other way of taking it out. also tried the soldering gun thing.. while with the method above. maybe three milimeters came up. that's about it.
#12
Well buddy, PM me if your interested in new Gold Gotoh Locking Tuners. Got them awhile back, and they didn't fit in my current guitar so I boxed them back up and put them on the shelf.

As for everything else, I say fix it up. It looks like a quality axe.


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#13
I like the look of the "old" guitar.
But i'm planning to strip everything and get it new hardware and fit it with new bushings for the bridge [still can't get it out gahhh!!].
The guitar has alot of nicks and chips, is it possible to refinish the guitar the way it's finished now by myself?
I just want to take the paint off down the wood, fill in the nicks and chips, finish it in the nice gloss black again. So it's good as new =].

It also has a bolt on neck, anywhere links to a site with quality neck replacement and parts?

Thanks again =]
#14
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I like the look of the "old" guitar.
But i'm planning to strip everything and get it new hardware and fit it with new bushings for the bridge [still can't get it out gahhh!!].
The guitar has alot of nicks and chips, is it possible to refinish the guitar the way it's finished now by myself?
I just want to take the paint off down the wood, fill in the nicks and chips, finish it in the nice gloss black again. So it's good as new =].

It also has a bolt on neck, anywhere links to a site with quality neck replacement and parts?

Thanks again =]


Okay well firstly to get the bushings out you should use a screwdriver or something and lever it out, if you're going to refinish it then don't worry about it too much. As for the refinishing, yes you can do it yourself but i'd reccomend you read up on it if you've not done it, do some practise on a scrap bit of wood and finally DON'T RUSH IT!!! It can take weeks or even months to do each coat and wait for it to dry but you will thank yourself for it in the end.

If you want a les paul style neck then AXESRUS do them if you're in the UK.

http://www.axesrus.com/axenecks.htm#LesPNecks

What's wrong with the current one though? A new set of frets is not as bad to fit as you think as long as you're careful and you could probably get a professional to do it for you for less than £70 lol.
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#15
Well, if you have broken tuners, you can always just buy new ones and age them artificially..


Yeah, I really need money.


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#16
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Well, if you have broken tuners, you can always just buy new ones and age them artificially..


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LOL? how do i do that?
#17
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Okay well firstly to get the bushings out you should use a screwdriver or something and lever it out, if you're going to refinish it then don't worry about it too much. As for the refinishing, yes you can do it yourself but i'd reccomend you read up on it if you've not done it, do some practise on a scrap bit of wood and finally DON'T RUSH IT!!! It can take weeks or even months to do each coat and wait for it to dry but you will thank yourself for it in the end.

If you want a les paul style neck then AXESRUS do them if you're in the UK.

http://www.axesrus.com/axenecks.htm#LesPNecks

What's wrong with the current one though? A new set of frets is not as bad to fit as you think as long as you're careful and you could probably get a professional to do it for you for less than £70 lol.


I read threads bout it being pretty hard and time consuming.
I'd try, but it's a huge investment. I think in end fixing this guitar up would cost way more than getting a new LP copy. But i can learn alot from it xD
I live in Canada actually... and i don't feel like leaving my guitar with the big retail music store near me. i don't have a lot near me. Just two.

I haven't actually put strings and tried the frets. But i tried cleaning them and they're still green and dented all over.
#18
Depends on what look your going for.
Really old and aged
or Completly reliced.


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#19
Just a little aging, like how the guitar was originally.
I'm not a big fan of like the Fender Road Worn guitars.
Or maybe i should just let it age on it's only.

I'm getting interested in too many things at once xD.
How do i remove the knobs on this guitar? Do i just pull straight up [when the guitar is on it's back] ? It seems like it doesn't come out that way...
#20
Ahh, for the aging, I BELEIVE (Don't quote me on this!), that setting the parts out in the sun will give them the dullish look that you want. Don't do it without confirmation first, though.

They should come straight up when you pull them..
I honestly don't know about that one


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#21
there's a little nut under the knob. you can probably see it under it. get a small wrench and take them out. well, that's how my friends LP copy knobs were, but they were speed knobs, not top hats.
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#22
Too age hardware, just scratch it a bit rub some mild acid into it I guess. Should work.

I'm confused, didn't you have custom iceman build thread?
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#23
I would not remove the bridge studs. replace whats broken and do a setup. that thing needs to be treated like its a vintage collectible instrument. ibanez collectors forums may have more information on it. although its not an ibanez. they know the history of high quality Japanese LP copies.
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#24
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Too age hardware, just scratch it a bit rub some mild acid into it I guess. Should work.

I'm confused, didn't you have custom iceman build thread?


LOL nope. you got the wrong guy xD
I think the other other thread i started was about fixing a bass guitar of my friends xD
#25
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I would not remove the bridge studs. replace whats broken and do a setup. that thing needs to be treated like its a vintage collectible instrument. ibanez collectors forums may have more information on it. although its not an ibanez. they know the history of high quality Japanese LP copies.


Ohhh .. FML !! the studs are halfway out .. do i hammer them back in or what O_O ??
#26
Yes, but make sure that the lines in the studs match the holes in the wood, and cover it with a rag folded a few times to prevent mushrooming of the screwhead.

And also make sure you hammer straight down.


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#27
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Too age hardware, just scratch it a bit rub some mild acid into it I guess. Should work.


Ehhh no.

Lightly rub the hardware with steel wool and then place it into a covered bucket (so as to make it air-tight) with a bowl of muriatic acid in the middle. Check on the hardware every 30-45 minutes or so and be careful not to breathe in the fumes when you open up the cover.

Also wear thick rubber gloves when you reach into the bucket because even just the vapors can sting and irritate your skin. Don't get the acid on concrete or drive ways and always make sure to avoid direct contact with the acid on your skin.
#28
If i do end up leaving the tailpiece bushings in there, i want to use a tune-o-matic bridge for my guitar. They have s smaller thread and bushing opening for the thread. So should i pluck those out or should i go with finding a bridge that would fit the bushings already "stuck" on my guitar?
#29
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Yes, but make sure that the lines in the studs match the holes in the wood, and cover it with a rag folded a few times to prevent mushrooming of the screwhead.

And also make sure you hammer straight down.


The problem i face now is if i stick with the bushings that are already in the guitar. i can't use tune-o-matic bridges. The bushings for both the tailpiece and the bridge are the same size on my guitar. should i believe a gotoh bridge matches my requirements.

Does brand matter for bridges?

What if i pull the bushing out and the hole is huge? can i fill it and drill another hole for a new bushing ? O-o
#30
bump!!

I still need help with the bushings, and the bridge choice.
I ended up ordering a Gotoh bridge through a local dealer.
Is that okay?
Or should i go for a TonePros bridge or something.
I mentioned before that the bushings were the same large post size.
The "large post" Tonepros T.O.M works in my case?
If you need pics i'll post em =]
#31
Im done fixing it =].
Anyone interested in seeing it? LOL .
i put new tuners a new bridge & tailpiece.
Planning to put some new pups on it. Or take the actives from my schecter and put it on them. and put passives back on my schecter.
*shrug.
I don't really like the frets on the Manfield though, but it's a bolt on so i could change it maybe later =D
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#34
instead of getting a new neck why dont you just get it refretted? a new neck can change the whole sound of the instrument completely. and yes, pics would be awesome.
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#36
Honestly, if any of the original hardware is still functional, I'm not sure why your replacing it, and really not sure why your aging it. Old **** is cool.
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#37
I would replace parts where absolutely necessary, and leave it as original as possible. But then again, I don't see any harm in upgrading the pickups, but I would keep the original ones in case you ever want to restore it to stock.

I love it when people take old worn out guitars and restore them to their original glory, or even surpass it. That's what I'm gonna do with my Aria once I have the money, not that it's really "worn out".

Edit: Just saw that you've got her all fixed up. Show us some pics!
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