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#161
Quote by lifesuckstomuch
i have a badmonkey, but i am using my overdrive channel for blues so i want pedal for vh tone

was looking at the DLS, the "rawk" setting sounds too mid-scooped, pantera-ish to me rather than the EVH power and smoothness

No budget??
go git a Catalinbread/Zvex Custom shop pedal
or a new amp
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#162
Quote by WTF!!is a TAB
No budget??
go git a Catalinbread/Zvex Custom shop pedal
or a new amp

no need for sarcasm, i mean like im not gonna drop a ridiculous amount of cash on a pedal, and i just bought the valveking, and love it
#163
Hello gentlemen, I currently own a B-52 AT112. I adore the gain at louder levels but sadly I am required by the wife to play at a manageable level within the home. I was curious if any of you gentlemen could suggest a pedal with a nice clear metal lead and rhythm sound {ala John Petrucci} while preserving the tone to a certain extent. My budget is up to 200 dollars. I really hope you guys can help me.

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#164
^better yet, get a peavey vypyr 15 watt new for 100, it's better than the spider
periphery/bulb!

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Ibanez RG7321 w/ D-sonic in bridge

Peavey 5150 mk ii & b52 4x12 cab

line 6 podxt for recording

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Head and Cab for $130? You don't need a head and cabinet, you need a psychological examination.
#166
Quote by Unquestionable
Hello gentlemen, I currently own a B-52 AT112. I adore the gain at louder levels but sadly I am required by the wife to play at a manageable level within the home. I was curious if any of you gentlemen could suggest a pedal with a nice clear metal lead and rhythm sound {ala John Petrucci} while preserving the tone to a certain extent. My budget is up to 200 dollars. I really hope you guys can help me.

Your friend,
Unquestionable.

AMT California sound
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#167
Alf, since this is the only place I can really get in contact with you, if I had enough space in my sig to put in your casinoepiphone dig from the Spider III thread yesterday, I would be all over like white on rice.

And I'll second the AMT California. Also, you could maybe look into a Super Hard-On to tighten up and smooth out your tone?
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#168
Quote by stratman_13
Alf, since this is the only place I can really get in contact with you, if I had enough space in my sig to put in your casinoepiphone dig from the Spider III thread yesterday, I would be all over like white on rice.

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#169
Hey guys! Lookie what I found!


It's a prototype, and will be the ULTIMATE low wattage metal amp when it goes into production!
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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#170
Quote by Shinozoku
Hey guys! Lookie what I found!


It's a prototype, and will be the ULTIMATE low wattage metal amp when it goes into production!



how many watts ??
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#171
It's a 2 channel RM20, so 15 watts of EL84 driven power
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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#172
Quote by Shinozoku
It's a 2 channel RM20, so 15 watts of EL84 driven power

Nice!!

im looking forward for it
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#173
Me too, especially with the individual boosts for each channel, essentially making it 4 channels I want this as a practice amp SO bad!
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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#174
Hey Shin, how long does it take to change modules?
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what's pron?


EDIT: i googled it, you guys are gross.


a2m/gape/murder/suicide/farrakhan/braziliancakefarts/bugera
#176
Quote by DiSTuRBeD -26-
^that^

Also, when is the new RM20 coming out?/

That bitch is MINE

You have a Vetta
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#177
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You have a Vetta


Yeah, the Vettas at my dads house, the RM20 could be at my moms
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#178
Quote by DiSTuRBeD -26-
Yeah, the Vettas at my dads house, the RM20 could be at my moms

two great practice/small gigging amps in one of your houses..hmm i kinda liked that.
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#180
Quote by Shinozoku
It's a 2 channel RM20, so 15 watts of EL84 driven power


Cool, when is it out and cost?
#181
Quote by Shinozoku
Hey guys! Lookie what I found!


It's a prototype, and will be the ULTIMATE low wattage metal amp when it goes into production!


No!!!

I can't have any more new amps to wait for before I buy mine, I'm sick of waiting ... I've been waiting for months for shops here to get in Rev Jr.s and 6505 112s.
#182
Low-Medium Gain Modules


Clean – Standard clean. Some say it’s a tube JC120 tone; great for effects.

Blackface – Based on a Fender Blackface Reverb (without the ‘verb). Not quite there, but still a great clean. ~$120-175 used, $209 new.

Deluxe (or DLX) – Based on a Fender Blackface Deluxe, and much truer to the sound of the modeled amp. Breaks up fairly soon, making for a good overdrive, but proper dialing and passive pickups can provide great warm cleans though. ~$120-175 used, $209 new.

Tweed – Based on a Fender Tweed Bassman. Close, but no cigar, but still a great country clean or SRV style OD. Similar to the JTM. ~$120-175 used, $209 new.

Top Boost – Based on a Vox AC30 with a bit more drive (think Brian May). Capable of good cleans, and has a mod to bring the specs and sound closer to the AC30. ~$120-175 used, $209 new.

KH-1 – Kirk Hammet’s signature clean, based on several vintage Fenders. Tuned to handle the output from active pickups, and sounds somewhat like a brighter, more chimey Blackface. ~$175-200 used, $259 new.

Super V – George Lynch’s signature clean, based on a Vox, but with woodier mids, also a hybrid like the KH-1. Better stock cleans than the Top Boost, but still capable of grit. ~$175-200 used, $259 new.

JTM – Marshall JTM45 tone, capable of Brit Cleans and AC/DC and Zeppelin style crunch. Can hit Sabbath tones with a good treble booster or fuzz pedal. Very similar to the Tweed in tone. ~$120-175 used, $209 new.

Brahma – George Lynch’s signature crunch tone, based on his 61’ Plexi. Capable of everything from British cleans to hotter Plexi roar. Takes well to boosts and higher gain tubes like Lynch’s favored Yugoslavian 7025’s. ~$175-200 used, $259 new.

Plexi – Hot Plexi tone, the module that the Brahma was designed off of. Capable of “gritty” Marshall cleans, but excels at crunch tones. ~$120-175 used, $209 new.

Ultra Lead – Medium gain module frequently called the “Steve Vai” module. Similar to a modded Marshall or old Carvin (maybe). Designed solely for lead tones, it has a muddy rhythm sound as a result. Module is also somewhat noisy stock, but can be modded by Pete Turley into a Mesa Mark Series preamp, which is far more versatile and useful. Still good for leads stock with the controls near max. Discontinued, and rare. ~$100-175 used.

Brown – Basically an EVH module. Somewhere between the Plexi and SL+, but with its own signature sound. Discontinued, and rare, but the sound can be obtained by a mod from Pete Turley that utilizes a Plexi module. ~$100-175 used.

Med-High Gain Modules


SL+ – Pre-November 2007 this module was based on a Marshall JCM2000 DSL/TSL with heavy lows and scooped mids with a Marshall edge. Nov. 07 and up, tighter bass and more prominent mids that voice the module like a JCM800. Gain knob at noon is the same gain as a JCM800 maxed out. Great versatile module. ~$120-175 used, $209 new.

XTC – Bogner Ecstasy module, another “Steve Vai” mod with a great creamy lead tone. Stock version lacking in good rhythms, but cleans up well. ~$120-175 used, $209 new.

Mr. Scary – George Lynch’s Lynch Mob rhythm tone, based off of a Soldano SLO. Similar to the SL+, but with that Soldano “bite”. This module gets you into hair metal heaven with some delay and chorus. - ~$175-200 used, $299 new

KH-2 – Kirk Hammett’s signature rhythm sound, reminiscent of their mid-80’s tone from records like Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets. A semi-hybrid module, it has characteristics of both a Marshall JCM800 and a Mesa/Boogie Mark series amplifier (both of which were strung together to get some of their sounds in that era), but is closer to a hot rodded, American voiced Marshall. ~$175-200 used, $259 new.

1086 – Dan Donegan’s signature module with a high and low gain switch, and a high and low midrange switch. Very versatile stock module, but gets mixed reviews from people. The scooped mids side is more American toned, like a Mesa Recto, while the boosted side is very Marshally. The high and low gain switch takes this from Plexi crunch (and even cleans) to killer high gain. Sounds best modded, and also really comes alive with dropped tunings (like Dropped Db and Db standard, and below). ~$175-200 used, $259 new.

Modern – Great overall high gain lead sound, very smooth and with a nice amount of sizzle. The rhythm tones on this one are questionable, and not many people dig it for that, which is why it's used primarily for lead. The overall tone of the module can be compared to a Krank Krankenstein, but isn't spot-on. This module is the foundation of many mods by Pete and Anthony, but is becoming harder to find. I will update with more information as I find it. Discontinued and rare. ~$100-175 used.

Recto/Rectified/Treadplate – These three modules are basically the same, but with circuitry upgrades that fixed high noise and flubby low end (Treadplate is the newest model). This is based off of a Mesa/Boogie Dual or Triple rectifier. ~$120-175 used, $209 new.

Grail – George Lynch’s signature lead tone, based off of his old two-channel Mesa Dual Rec, one of the first 500 ever made. Provides a more accurate representation of a Recto, but also has been known to sound like a Peavey 5150. One of the best stock high gain modules. ~$175-200 used, $259 new.

Ultra – Randall’s signature high gain tone. This has a very scooped midrange and big bottom end. Great gain, very moddable, but doesn’t record well stock, unlike the Ultra XL. However, some like this module’s sound better in live situations. This and the Ultra XL are fairly noisy due to the high gain though. This is remedied with a noise gate, a mod, or using a JAN Phillips 5751 preamp tube in the amp’s Phase Inverter. ~$120-175 used, $209 new.

Ultra XL – Randall’s other signature high gain sound, with more midrange and a tighter low end than the Ultra. Sounds better recorded than the Ultra and is one of the best stock high gain modules available. This and the Ultra are fairly noisy due to the high gain though. This is remedied with a noise gate, a mod, or using a JAN Phillips 5751 preamp tube in the amp’s Phase Inverter. ~$120-175 used, $209 new.

KH-3 – Kirk Hammett’s signature lead tone, and rhythm for Metallica’s 90’s albums. Higher gain version of the KH-2 with more mids and bottom end. Has a fairly dry gain for some, which can be compared to Krank or VHT. One of the best stock high gain modules. ~$175-200 used, $259 new.

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All these modules can be modified by anyone who knows about tone stacks in amplifiers, and how to solder. However, some people prefer to go to somebody with experience, such as Pete Turley at Gigmods (http://www.gigmods.com/index.html), Anthony at Salvation Mods (http://www.myspace.com/salvationmods), or Dave Friedman at Racksystems USA (http://www.racksystemsltd.com/). All of these modders, as well as a few more can be found and contacted at Randall’s forums found through their site.

Sound Clips

Here are sites and accounts that show off the tones of various stock and modded modules.
http://www.bandslink.com/randall.htm
http://www.youtube.com/user/gigmods
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=916411
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=909142


Clips of other modules can be found throughout the MTS Forum. I will add more clips of modules and module comparisons as I find them.
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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Last edited by Shinozoku at Sep 11, 2009,
#183
^thanks alot Shin
but i cant access the links
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#184
Links fixed. I would link to the MTS Forum directly, but I wanna keep noobs from spamming it, and noobs tend to not want to actually use Google to find something
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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#185
From reading all your descriptions, you made my GAS for an RM100 incredibly high: These are all the modules I want now:

Blackface
SL+
KH-2
1086
Grail
UltraXL
KH-3

That's more than the amp itself

DAMN YOU SHIN!!
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#186
Quote by DiSTuRBeD -26-
DAMN YOU SHIN!!

Shin makes me GASsy (not like that >.> for the Randall MTS.......

i want one now
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#187
Quote by DiSTuRBeD -26-
From reading all your descriptions, you made my GAS for an RM100 incredibly high: These are all the modules I want now:

Blackface
SL+
KH-2
1086
Grail
UltraXL
KH-3

That's more than the amp itself

DAMN YOU SHIN!!

That's a RM100 and an RM4 rack setup in stereo
EDIT: Added Jimosity's clips to the post. Will probably add more later (like pretty colors )
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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Last edited by Shinozoku at Jul 10, 2009,
#188
hey if i bought a bugera 333xl what cabinet should i get and would i need to keep my metal pedal or should i sell it? ohh and whats its reverb like
#189
Sell the metal pedal.

How much can you spend on a cab? Which size do you want? 2x12, 4x12 etc etc

Are you gigging.

The Bugera cabs are actually VERY good for metal (assuming that's what you play)

Here is a good clip of a 6262 running through a Behringer cab (same as the Bugera)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZchxwqOgMQ
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#190
i will be gigging hardcore punk...but to me it dosent matter as i have one ds1 to try punk and i love to playmetal so i will be playing metal any other time...u reckon a 6262 is better then a 333xl. I will be buying the head then after a while buyign a cab i reckon 500 aus for cab? is that not enough for a good cab if i need mroe i will go more..once again it comes with reverb dosent it ??? is it a good reverb???
#191
Updates to my MTS post Added links to various soundclips.
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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#192
Quote by shaenb243
i will be gigging hardcore punk...but to me it dosent matter as i have one ds1 to try punk and i love to playmetal so i will be playing metal any other time...u reckon a 6262 is better then a 333xl. I will be buying the head then after a while buyign a cab i reckon 500 aus for cab? is that not enough for a good cab if i need mroe i will go more..once again it comes with reverb dosent it ??? is it a good reverb???


It converts to about $400 USD... that's enough money for a good cab. Here is a good one for $430. A REALLY good one. http://avatarspeakers.com/ I don't know if you want a 2x12 or 4x12 but it will be just as loud, if that matters. Get two V30's in the contemporary one.. (I hope they ship to Australia..) If they don't, a Bugera cab will be decent enough. Did you see the clip I posted? That's with the "cheap" Behringer cab.

For hardcore punk and metal, you'd be fine with either a 6262 or 333XL. I 've never played the 333XL before though, but I have played a JSX (what the 333XL is based on) and it would probably be a better choice. The Crunch channel would do punk brilliantly due to the high mid focus, and the crunch also has enough gain for metal too! You'd probably be better of with the 333XL. I prefer the 6262 for metal though...

As for the reverb, the 6262 had decent enough reverb, IDK about the 333XL

Holy ****, that's the longest post I've ever typed on this site.
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#193
Dude, what about shipping and customs? Won't they basically rape his whole family with him being in Australia? =/
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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#194
Quote by shaenb243
i will be gigging hardcore punk...but to me it dosent matter as i have one ds1 to try punk and i love to playmetal so i will be playing metal any other time...u reckon a 6262 is better then a 333xl. I will be buying the head then after a while buyign a cab i reckon 500 aus for cab? is that not enough for a good cab if i need mroe i will go more..once again it comes with reverb dosent it ??? is it a good reverb???


The reverb on the 6262 isnt very good. Its decent if you keep it below 3, but any higher then that and it just sounds bizarre. As for whether to get the 333xl or the 6262, it all depends on what type of tone you want to get out of it. The 6262 is more saturated and raw while the 333xl has more of a crunch sound to it, its hard to explain so here is a video to help you decide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT37ou1A6sg
Gear:

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Marshall JCM900 1960 cab
#195
I want on Teh LIST of Smart Br00tal People, I addz teh amps n sum p3dalz in the original thread
Add to list:
Line 6 Spider Valve HD100- 799 new, ~500 used I would say
Egnater Tourmaster 4100 100w- 1400 new, not sure on used
Carvin X100B- 600 new
Peavy Vypyr 120w - 670 new
Traynor Custom Special 100w - ~1000, depends where they are

For guitars add Carvin, BC Rich, Fernandes, Godin, Michael Kelly, Music Man, and Peavey
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#196
Quote by Metalfan41
I want on Teh LIST of Smart Br00tal People, I addz teh amps n sum p3dalz in the original thread
Add to list:
Line 6 Spider Valve HD100- 799 new, ~500 used I would say
Egnater Tourmaster 4100 100w- 1400 new, not sure on used
Carvin X100B- 600 new
Peavy Vypyr 120w - 670 new
Traynor Custom Special 100w - ~1000, depends where they are

For guitars add Carvin, BC Rich, Fernandes, Godin, Michael Kelly, Music Man, and Peavey

i have the X100b there and im not to comfortable putting the Spider Valve, its decent but plenty of alternatives.
im gonna add Carvin, Fernandes, B.C. Rich, Music Man and Peavey on the list if you post links to them
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#197
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i have the X100b there and im not to comfortable putting the Spider Valve, its decent but plenty of alternatives.
im gonna add Carvin, Fernandes, B.C. Rich, Music Man and Peavey on the list if you post links to them

the spider valve Im talking about is a hybrid, not the POS one everyone thinks of when they hear spider valve

Carvin: http://www.carvinguitars.com/
BC Rich: http://www.bcrich.com/
Music Man: http://www.music-man.com/
Fernandes: http://www.fernandesguitars.com/
Peavey: http://www.peavey.com/
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Aww shucks...

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#198
Quote by Metalfan41
the spider valve Im talking about is a hybrid, not the POS one everyone thinks of when they hear spider valve

Carvin: http://www.carvinguitars.com/
BC Rich: http://www.bcrich.com/
Music Man: http://www.music-man.com/
Fernandes: http://www.fernandesguitars.com/
Peavey: http://www.peavey.com/

gonna ad them when i wake up..
and iknow what the spider valve is, my local store has one
its decent but with its price there are many other alternatives but i'll just put it in the list tommorow.
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#199
Quote by Metalfan41
the spider valve Im talking about is a hybrid, not the POS one everyone thinks of when they hear spider valve

Carvin: http://www.carvinguitars.com/
BC Rich: http://www.bcrich.com/
Music Man: http://www.music-man.com/
Fernandes: http://www.fernandesguitars.com/
Peavey: http://www.peavey.com/



Nah the valve is still a POS, they have one at my local music store and i tried my damnedest to get a good tone out of it, but couldnt even come close. Also when you switch preset channels the volume jumps like no ones business... i wouldn't recommend this amp to anyone, i dont think it belongs on "teh list" .
Gear:

Jackson Mark Morton Dominion
Mesa Dual Rect 2 Channel
Marshall JCM900 1960 cab
Last edited by BigRob91 at Jul 10, 2009,
#200
Quote by BigRob91
Nah the valve is still a POS, they have one at my local music store and i tried my damnedest to get a good tone out of it, but couldnt even come close. Also when you switch present channels the volume jumps like no ones business... i wouldn't recommend this amp to anyone, i dont think it belongs on "teh list" .

works for me, just thought Id throw it out there
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Aww shucks...

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