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#1
I'm not sure if i do, but sometimes I see and hear some weird **** in my house. I think it might be haunted. Now maybe I'm just like crazy (i'm sure i'll get a lot of replies/posts that say i am.. hahaha) but maybe im not. But my house is very old, and has been owned by a few different people. some who are possibly dead.

Have you guys ever seen ghosts? or hear things in the night?
Tell some stories, and tell me what could be causing some of the weird expiriences i have in my house.
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#3
You're just like crazy.

Old houses = lots of noise.


Sometimes, I hear "Who's your daddy? It's me. I'm your daddy." when I'm sleeping.
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#4
Meh. I don't really believe in any of that stuff. Alot of people say they are real but I've never seen in hard evidence so I just deny it.

Those tv shows like Ghost Hunters I think are just milking it for what its worth.
#5
sometimes. Most of the times I don't.
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#9
I don't.

Every ghost sighting can be explained by logic, by science, and by psychology.
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#10
i don't believe in ghosts !
if the house is so old, most of it was probably made of wood.. wood can make noise.. my tv makes noise at night when i turn it off, for example..
try to think about all the reasonable things that may be happening besides that "ghost theory"
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I don't.

Every ghost sighting can be explained by logic, by science, and by psychology.

fail big time
#12
Yes. I'm a superstitious idiot, I know.
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#13
Yes, but what's there to be scared of?
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fail big time

So you're going to just tell me I've 'failed' without a counter-argument, or even a correctly constructed sentence and punctuation?
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#16
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fail big time


Ignorance is fun isn't it? Though I agree with Rabid, they're silly little inventions of our minds IMO.
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So you're going to just tell me I've 'failed' without a counter-argument, or even a correctly constructed sentence and punctuation?



This is what I'm thinking.


So... science, and logic is failure when it comes to explaining the unexplained?
#18
no, i have no reason to.

and all those ghost hunter and paranormal shows? they get good ratings. you know why? they have producers and writers who script them.

even reality tv shows have writers.
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#19
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I don't.

Every ghost sighting can be explained by logic, by science, and by psychology.

so your telling me every ghost (spirit) sighting was proven not to be true ??? know one on this earth can prove they dont exist. thats a fact !!!
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#20
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so your telling me every ghost (spirit) sighting was proving not to be true ??? know one on this earth can prove they dont exist. thats a fact !!!



Burden of proof is on the one making the claim.


Have any empirical evidence for ghosts?


On topic I don't believe, but they make for great stories.
#21
This thread has come up so many times and every time the 'no' group completely destroys any argument the people who belive in this stuff put forward.
#22
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Burden of proof is on the one making the claim.


Have any empirical evidence for ghosts?


On topic I don't believe, but they make for great stories.

well thats another thing. we cant prove they exist either, lol
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I swear on my mother's grave that my last apartment was haunted by the ghost of a slain crack dealer, there was just strange stuff happening there all the time. That's the reason I don't live there anymore, seriously.
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well thats another thing. we cant prove they exist either, lol


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#26
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well thats another thing. we cant prove they exist either, lol



Ya, but science does fairly well showing how most of the claims aren't real, and for the ones that it can't 100% it sure puts doubt on their validity.

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I swear on my mother's grave that my last apartment was haunted by the ghost of a slain crack dealer, there was just strange stuff happening there all the time. That's the reason I don't live there anymore, seriously.



Sure it wasn't just a regular crack addict?



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Ya, but science does fairly well showing how most of the claims aren't real, and for the ones that it can't 100% it sure puts doubt on their validity.


Sure it wasn't just a regular crack addict?



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can i have some evidence from some of these proven cases ??
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So you're going to just tell me I've 'failed' without a counter-argument, or even a correctly constructed sentence and punctuation?


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can i have some evidence from some of these proven cases ??

And yourself likewise?
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#29
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can i have some evidence from some of these proven cases ??


http://www.ghostresearch.org/ghostpics/fake/timedx.html

http://www.ghostresearch.org/ghostpics/fake/reflection_1.html

http://www.ghostresearch.org/ghostpics/fake/Dust.html

http://www.ghostresearch.org/ghostpics/fake/Dust.html

These alone accounts for so many of these "ghost" sightings. Feel free to match these up with reported sightings.
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#30
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And yourself likewise?

are u for real ? lol
i never said i had any evidence. im sayin , we cant prove ghosts do or do not exist . ye can all say they do not exist but ye cant prove it !!
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I've seen some pretty ghastly crack addicts in my day but none who have been transparent.
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#32
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are u for real ? lol
i never said i had any evidence. im sayin , we cant prove ghosts do or do not exist . ye can all say they do not exist but ye cant prove it !!



Mental illnesses can cause hallucinations or people hearing things, even non-serious illnesses. Being sick, impairs your judgement. Lucid dreaming, theres all kinds of logical explanations, leebs up there has some good stuff.


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I've seen some pretty ghastly crack addicts in my day but none who have been transparent.


Lucid dreaming? Where you sick?

I dunno if I believe you really but it sounds like a pretty cool story so far. I mean I believe you that you probably saw something and that you believe it's a ghost, but I don't believe it's a ghost, I'm skeptical about this kind of thing.
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are u for real ? lol
i never said i had any evidence. im sayin , we cant prove ghosts do or do not exist . ye can all say they do not exist but ye cant prove it !!


We aren't the ones who need to prove anything. You are.

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Mental illnesses can cause hallucinations or people hearing things, even non-serious illnesses. Being sick, impairs your judgement. Lucid dreaming, theres all kinds of logical explanations, leebs up there has some good stuff.


Add to this list that a healthy human brain will attempt to make sense of random patterns (arranging it into faces, figures etc.) and there is very little proof of ghosts that can't be placed beyond reasonable belief.
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#34
There are no such things as ghosts. Or ghoulies. Or monsters under your bed. Or unicorns. Or the tooth fairy. Or the Easter Bunny.

Santa however is a bad ass.
#35
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#36
Yeah I believe in ghosts.

Some of the **** I've seen.. ughh, I'd be pretty stupid not to believe in them.

Don't really wanna think about it, tis creepy.
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We aren't the ones who need to prove anything. You are.


In a debate shouldn't BOTH sides present proof or evidence?
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this is your evidence ? anyone could see they were fake. i can show you pictures too but it does nt mean a thing ghost pictures
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this is your evidence ? anyone could see they were fake. i can show you pictures too but it does nt mean a thing ghost pictures


Ok you want hard 100% conclusive evidence ghosts don't exist?

Well I guess you win. Congratulations. I can't provide that. What I can do is copy and paste my thoughts on the subject from the last thread on this.

"You, personally, your thoughts, feelings, opinions and everything else that makes 'you' is mearely the product of billions of years of evolution that has produced an extremely complex chemical plant. If you are to argue this point then I'm not even going to bother debating this with you.

Now how exactly do you propose, that once these chemicals and electrical signals cease to function the person you are lives on in any way. Anyone who looks at this logically and doesn't have a complex about their own mortality can easily see that there is no way a person could possibly live on after what makes us is gone.

Now you are probabely going to argue that this isn't proof. Well lets see what you've got to support your, frankly outrageous, claim."

Anyway I'll suspend all disbelief and rational thought for your benefit for a moment and watch this video.

First image could simply be fog or moisture on the lense. WHY MUST IT BE A GHOST?

Second image is our perception playing tricks making us see things that aren't there. WHY MUST IT BE A GHOST?

Third image is likely overlapping film (not sure on the technical term) WHY MUST IT BE A GHOST?

Fourth image is what exactly? My rule of thumb is that if I saw it in a photo album and didn;t notice anything it's not obvious enough to be even considered as a ghost.

Fifth image is explained in the links I provided (actually so is 1, 3 and 4).

Ok there done. I've just given a rational explanation for all of those photos with no expert knowlege of photography.
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Ok you want hard 100% conclusive evidence ghosts don't exist?

Well I guess you win. Congratulations. I can't provide that. What I can do is copy and paste my thoughts on the subject from the last thread on this.

"You, personally, your thoughts, feelings, opinions and everything else that makes 'you' is mearely the product of billions of years of evolution that has produced an extremely complex chemical plant. If you are to argue this point then I'm not even going to bother debating this with you.

Now how exactly do you propose, that once these chemicals and electrical signals cease to function the person you are lives on in any way. Anyone who looks at this logically and doesn't have a complex about their own mortality can easily see that there is no way a person could possibly live on after what makes us is gone.

Now you are probabely going to argue that this isn't proof. Well lets see what you've got to support your, frankly outrageous, claim."

Anyway I'll suspend all disbelief and rational thought for your benefit for a moment and watch this video.

First image could simply be fog or moisture on the lense. WHY MUST IT BE A GHOST?

Second image is our perception playing tricks making us see things that aren't there. WHY MUST IT BE A GHOST?

Third image is likely overlapping film (not sure on the technical term) WHY MUST IT BE A GHOST?

Fourth image is what exactly? My rule of thumb is that if I saw it in a photo album and didn;t notice anything it's not obvious enough to be even considered as a ghost.

Fifth image is explained in the links I provided (actually so is 1, 3 and 4).

Ok there done. I've just given a rational explanation for all of those photos with no expert knowlege of photography.

so your sayin i win
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