#1
Hi all -

Well, I need an amp that used will cost me under $500 - (or up to about £250 if you're British). I have my own pedal board set up, so built in FX aren't important - just something that will be substantial enough for small club type gigs with my band.

I've heard good things about the Fender Princeton, but are either of these any good also? :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250458110039&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AX%3ARTQ%3AGB%3A1123&salenotsupported

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peavey-bandit-112-Transtube-Combo-Guitar-Amplifier_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1688Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem45ecfcada9QQitemZ300328725929QQptZUKQ5fMusicalInstrQ5fAmplifiersQ5fRLQQsalenotsupported

Music wise, we're kinda Raveonettes-y - so lots of fuzz, some distortion, plenty of reverb (here's them, if you don't know them) :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnhysizEgoc&feature=related
#2
Is the Princeton that small 15w tube amp that was reissued recently?

If so, that would appear to be perfect [and better then those two options, but the Bandit is meant to be good]
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Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

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#4
Quote by lolamala


I thought you was talking about the Princeton Reverb, which IS all tube.
http://www.fender.co.uk/products//search.php?partno=2172000000
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Quote by Doppelgänger
You could always just sleep beside your refrigerator.

Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

'72 Tele Appreciation Group
RIP DIO
#5
I'd go for the peavey since 40 watts won't be enough to compete with a drum..
I'm using currently a Line6 SpiderIII 75W amp for small gigs
It's ideal for almost every genre and the price comes around 300$ in stores..
#7
Quote by LordOfTheDonuts
I'd go for the peavey since 40 watts won't be enough to compete with a drum..
I'm using currently a Line6 SpiderIII 75W amp for small gigs
It's ideal for almost every genre and the price comes around 300$ in stores..


WTF????

I play out with an 18W Suhr Badger and a 4x12 -- I am easily heard over a drumset.

Try a Blackheart Handsome Devil 1x12 Combo ($450)
Last edited by suhraddict at Jul 10, 2009,
#8
Having read your other post, I HIGHLY recommend buying a Laney VC15 [or a VC30 if you want more volume, but buy it used if you want to stay withing budget].

It should be loud enough for small gigs, and has really nice cleans.

Trust me. I used to have the same amp as you before I got my Laney.
You WILL love the Laney, combined with your pedal board.
Sunn O))):
Quote by Doppelgänger
You could always just sleep beside your refrigerator.

Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

'72 Tele Appreciation Group
RIP DIO
#9
#10
Quote by lolamala


Why in such a hurry...just wondering.
#11
Quote by lolamala



It's all so subjective.

The Bandit is a great practice amp, but I'd never gig with it under normal circumstances. As far as Laney's go...I hate their sound.

Others obviously will feel different.
#12
Sunn O))):
Quote by Doppelgänger
You could always just sleep beside your refrigerator.

Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

'72 Tele Appreciation Group
RIP DIO
#13
That new price is a bit out of my budget... why in a hurry? I've a gig coming up, and if I don't totally love the amp, I can always re-sell!
#15
Quote by lolamala
That new price is a bit out of my budget... why in a hurry? I've a gig coming up, and if I don't totally love the amp, I can always re-sell!


What is your budget?

And can't you use your spider until you have enough to buy it?

But, I recommend getting some money quick, and buying the Laney.
I'm pretty sure you will love it, and it is infinitely better then the other options you were looking at.
Sunn O))):
Quote by Doppelgänger
You could always just sleep beside your refrigerator.

Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

'72 Tele Appreciation Group
RIP DIO
#16
Quote by lolamala
That new price is a bit out of my budget... why in a hurry? I've a gig coming up, and if I don't totally love the amp, I can always re-sell!



Just use the Spider.
#17
#18
Quote by lolamala


The gig have a PA?

If so, buy an X3Live and a couple of XLR cables.
#19
Quote by lolamala


It's better then the Valvestate and Princeton you wanted.

I recommend the Laney TF300 over all the other options you have presented. Get it.
Sunn O))):
Quote by Doppelgänger
You could always just sleep beside your refrigerator.

Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

'72 Tele Appreciation Group
RIP DIO
#20
Aaahh, that's just gonna confuse me! By Sunday I'll have no amp *(fingers crossed) so need a replacement to practice with too. If anyone has some kinda top 5 list in my budget, I will buy nay one of them. I'm THAT coerce-able
#21
Quote by lolamala
Aaahh, that's just gonna confuse me! By Sunday I'll have no amp *(fingers crossed) so need a replacement to practice with too. If anyone has some kinda top 5 list in my budget, I will buy nay one of them. I'm THAT coerce-able


Well, the Laney in that eBay link is probably the best.
IMO, you should get that.
Sunn O))):
Quote by Doppelgänger
You could always just sleep beside your refrigerator.

Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

'72 Tele Appreciation Group
RIP DIO
#22
hmmm... that Laney TF300 is a hybrid solidstate/tube, right? Should that put me off?
#23
Quote by lolamala
hmmm... that Laney TF300 is a hybrid solidstate/tube, right? Should that put me off?


No, it shouldn't.
It's SS [with a tube for drive], no modelling at all, so it's BETTER as you can use your pedals.
Sunn O))):
Quote by Doppelgänger
You could always just sleep beside your refrigerator.

Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

'72 Tele Appreciation Group
RIP DIO
#25
Quote by lolamala
Excellent! I'm buying it, I'm buying it!

I'm sorry but you are a fool. Good luck selling this amp in a month.
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Unless its electronic drums.

BURN THE WITCH!!!!!
#27
Is there anyone else out there that thinks the Laney TF300 is junk, and would therefore recommend ...... instead?
#28
^I do. If you have $500 US, why not spring for a tube combo? Check out B-52 AT112's, Peavey Valveking 112's, used Peavey Classic 30's, and so on. These are all more than loud enough for gigging, you will NEVER need 100 tube watts. And if you didn't already know, a 30w tube amp will be enough to gig with (hell, even a 15w if you don't use cleans). Tube amps are perceived as louder by the human ear, and a 50w tube amp will easily beat a 120w solid state amp.
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#29
Quote by CullenT
^I do. If you have $500 US, why not spring for a tube combo? Check out B-52 AT112's, Peavey Valveking 112's, used Peavey Classic 30's, and so on. These are all more than loud enough for gigging, you will NEVER need 100 tube watts. And if you didn't already know, a 30w tube amp will be enough to gig with (hell, even a 15w if you don't use cleans). Tube amps are perceived as louder by the human ear, and a 50w tube amp will easily beat a 120w solid state amp.


This. Get a used peavey classic 30.
Agile AL3000
Douglas WRL90
SX SR1 STD Plus
J&D Strat
Squier Tele
Sammick TR2
Douglas Draco
Peavey JSX
Bugera V5
TWANGED VJ
#30
^Thank goodness, someone who actually can help the lad.^

Peavey Classic 30. Simple, but has one of the best tones for your money.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Peavey-classic-30-great-condition_W0QQitemZ200360007476QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2ea6631734&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1|294%3A50

This is a little dark sounding for that kind of band, but it is a great amp for the money. A little EQ'ing should solve any problems with it's compressed bass and slight lack of midrange. Also, if you plan on using a fuzz box or a distortion pedal, this will be fine.
http://cgi.ebay.com/RANDALL-RG50TC-50w-ALL-TUBE-1X12-COMBO-AMP-HI-GAIN-EL34_W0QQitemZ190319623364QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c4feefcc4&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1|294%3A50

Wait for one of these to pop online in your prica range on craiglist, or just buy the 20 watt version.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Traynor-YCV40-Custom-TUBE-Valve-12-Combo-Amp-New_W0QQitemZ190097773133QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c42b5d24d&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

This is a great amp, but the drive may not be to your tastes. But if you are using pedals, this should be perfect.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Hot-Rod-Deluxe-all-tube-amp-amplifier_W0QQitemZ110411335743QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b507483f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1|294%3A50

This...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Peavey-ValveKing-112-Class-A-B-Tube-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ400028008448QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5d23870000&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

... with this...
http://cgi.ebay.com/PROCO-RAT-2-DISTORTION-PEDAL_W0QQitemZ150356755078QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item2301f60286&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A4%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A200
#31
Quote by AngryGoldfish
^Thank goodness, someone who actually can help the lad.^

Peavey Classic 30. Simple, but has one of the best tones for your money.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Peavey-classic-30-great-condition_W0QQitemZ200360007476QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2ea6631734&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1|294%3A50

This is a little dark sounding for that kind of band, but it is a great amp for the money. A little EQ'ing should solve any problems with it's compressed bass and slight lack of midrange. Also, if you plan on using a fuzz box or a distortion pedal, this will be fine.
http://cgi.ebay.com/RANDALL-RG50TC-50w-ALL-TUBE-1X12-COMBO-AMP-HI-GAIN-EL34_W0QQitemZ190319623364QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c4feefcc4&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1|294%3A50

Wait for one of these to pop online in your prica range on craiglist, or just buy the 20 watt version.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Traynor-YCV40-Custom-TUBE-Valve-12-Combo-Amp-New_W0QQitemZ190097773133QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c42b5d24d&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

This is a great amp, but the drive may not be to your tastes. But if you are using pedals, this should be perfect.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Hot-Rod-Deluxe-all-tube-amp-amplifier_W0QQitemZ110411335743QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b507483f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1|294%3A50

This...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Peavey-ValveKing-112-Class-A-B-Tube-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ400028008448QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5d23870000&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

... with this...
http://cgi.ebay.com/PROCO-RAT-2-DISTORTION-PEDAL_W0QQitemZ150356755078QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item2301f60286&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A4%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A200



Great work, but he lives in the UK.

That's why I recommended the VC15.
Cheap as chips.

I mean, if he can't afford that, then there's no hope of getting a good amp.
Sunn O))):
Quote by Doppelgänger
You could always just sleep beside your refrigerator.

Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

'72 Tele Appreciation Group
RIP DIO
Last edited by Simsimius at Jul 10, 2009,
#32
Yeah, a lot of those amps just don't show up on ebay uk! I'll keep my eyes peeled for a used Peavey Classic 30, or a VC15, or even VC30. Cheers everyone, except for that guy who called me a fool! :P
#33
Quote by Simsimius
Great work, but he lives in the UK.

That's why I recommended the VC15.
Cheap as chips.

I mean, if he can't afford that, then there's no hope of getting a good amp.
godamnit

Quote by lolamala
Well, I need an amp that used will cost me under $500 - (or up to about £250 if you're British).
Why the hell would you say that if you were British anyway?

you can pick up a Peavey Classic 30 second-hand, but they are generally out of your price range.
Laney's are a better option if you live in the UK.

Sorry for my confusion.
#34
Hey man, in the future, you don't have to make a new thread you can just bump your other one. I see you went up £50 from yesterday on your budget, could you stretch that any further?

EDIT: I'm not sure about this, but it could be a good deal. Seems a little too cheap.
Last edited by ticklemeemo at Jul 10, 2009,
#35
Hmmm.... it's probably silly shipping on that Vox from the USA to the UK. I've seen a few Peavey Classic 30's doing a completed ebay search that have sold for up to £250. £250 is probably my limit, so I'll just have to be patient.
#37
Quote by lolamala


They are supposed to be the highest gain tube combo you can get for under $500. I don't know because I haven't tried one personally. Ashdown bass amps are quite good though.
#38
Did you buy an amp already? I bought the VC15 three weeks ago and it's amazing. In band practice it was struggling a bit (drive channel volume on max) but it still cut through the mix. Then I plugged it into a 4x12" cab and I had to turn the volume down to 4.

And the reverb sounds very good for me.
Last edited by skeleb at Jul 14, 2009,
#39
yeah, four speakers instead of two makes a huge difference to the amount of volume propelled forward. it doesn't necessarily improve the amount of clean headroom have though. to a certain degree it does, but not drastically.