Poll: Which One Should I Buy?
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View poll results: Which One Should I Buy?
Vox Valvetronix VT50
10 56%
Fender Super Champ XD
7 39%
Marshall MG4 Series MG50FX
1 6%
Voters: 18.
#1
Hey guys, my first post here. I'm looking for an amp that I can practice with my band and in my room. I have about $400 to spend on it, preferably an all tube amp but for this price range i can't really ask for much..

I'm between the Vox Valvetronix VT50, Fender Super Champ XD and the Marshall MG4 Series MG50FX.
I mostly play Blues, Rock n' Roll and a some Metal // Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray, BB king, Albert King, Santana, ZZ Top, White Stripes, Led Zeppelin, AC\DC, Joe Satriani, Black Sabbath, Metallica.

I'm looking for an amp with great Crunchy, Hamonic, Warm tones that can also do some High gain metal tones..

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-I found the Vox Valvetronix VT50 as i was looking for something with a good range of tones and effects. I think the vox has the most wide range of tones, effects and features such as the voltage control in the back, plus the presets and being able to store up to 8 of your own. all this is great but after looking at alot of videos about it (youtube) I couldnt really hear the warm harmonic tones even tho its supposed to be half tube half modeling amp.. maybe with some tweaking arround I might find em..
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Vox-Valvetronix-VT50-50W- 1x12-Guitar-Combo-Amp-105186217-i1444499.gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYTArC1ZwV8& feature=related


-Fender Super Champ XD, It's an all tube amp which i prefer, only 15 Watts but I've heart thats pretty loud from an all tube amp. I think it has the best tones for blues and rock not so sure about metal. It has 16 different voices and the effect are good enough to have fun with. It doesn't have as many features as the Vox and I dont think i'd be able to play any metal on it..
GuitarCenter
Youtube


-I really like the tones off the Marshall MG4 Series MG50FX. I think it's great for rock and metal and some blues plus it has those crunchy warm harmonic tones which I like better than the Superchamp. I think I would get this amp but I've heard alot of people saying that MGs are not good amps and others saying that they're great.. I don't know why theres this big polarity.. The effects are also good n simple, the only thing I would have against it is that it's solid state but the good thing is that sounds kinda like tube..
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Marshall-MG4-Series-MG50FX- 50W-1x12-Guitar-Combo-Amp-581724-i1445067.gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1-jC7jh3UE& feature=related
Youtube 2

Which one do you think I should go for? Let me know what you guys think, Thanks!
Last edited by eeahss at Jul 11, 2009,
#2
$400 USD?

Will you buy used gear? That would get you a decent tube combo that will sound much better than the 3 you have listed.
#3
Quote by eyebanez333
$400 USD?

Will you buy used gear? That would get you a decent tube combo that will sound much better than the 3 you have listed.

and 20 dollars more will get a new valveking combo, even. TS, look for used gear, and in the process save a little more, and you can get a good tube combo.
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#5
Quote by eeahss
yea $400 USD, which tube combo would you recommend?


Whats your closest major city? I will do a quick troll of craigslist and see what I can find in your area.
#6
yay a properly made amp thread.


The vox is quite bassy and you tend to have to shove the treble right up to get any sort of sensible eq out of it. it is a very versatile amp however though it tends to sound rather 'generic' against other higher quality amps, it doesn't really cut through with a voice of it's own (which i s suppose it isn't designed to as a modeller)

never played a super champ so no comment, but fender really do make awesome blues amps. metal however is not their forte. you might be able to crank it with tubescreamer or similar in front though?

the mg series are really quite poor and don't do the marshall name justice, it sounds alright at first but you'll soon realise it just lacks any personality in the tone. all guitars have about the same flat sound through it. the over drive also has a kinda dead feel, you can tell it's there and that it's cranked right up, but it sounds like they've distorted a built in 90's sound card that has a sound range of 'beep' to 'blork'.

there is also nothing wrong with solid state, they're getting better and better and i would say they will overtake tube in terms of sound quality in our lifetime.
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#7
Quote by doive

there is also nothing wrong with solid state, they're getting better and better and i would say they will overtake tube in terms of sound quality in our lifetime.


Seems like this has been said before...a long time ago

But good info in your post. I'd say we could just knock the MG off the list now...the new ones are an improvement over the old...but still not great for the money. I guess I kind of lucked out when I bought mine in the past...I got it for use cheap off some poor guy who just wanted to get rid of it
#8
Quote by eyebanez333
Whats your closest major city? I will do a quick troll of craigslist and see what I can find in your area.


Thanks I'll search some used gear, I'm in Denver
#9
the Vox VT is quite a nice amp but i preferred the older AD series. a lot of the amp models on the newer model seemed a bit fizzier than the older ones.

The super champ is a nice amp, 15 watt tube power amp.. possibly the best sounding out of these at volume.

The MG4 series really isn't bad at all imo, i don't know why anyone bashes it. the old MGs were appauling, but i get the feeling nobody actually bothered to try the new MGs properly and just hate on it because of how much of an abomination of an amp the old model was. The new ones are all-round better quality, with a better tone, though still nothing special since it's still a budget amp! I can't help but feel that they are a little overpriced, but i actually like these new MGs.

Quote by doive
there is also nothing wrong with solid state, they're getting better and better and i would say they will overtake tube in terms of sound quality in our lifetime.

i think people have done as much as they can as far as getting a tube-like tone from a solid state is concerned. what companies really need to focus on is making solid state amps sound good in their own transistorised way as opposed to trying to make them sound like something they are not. There's very few companies which do that anymore because everyone is seeking the tube tones at the moment. it was different in the lat '70s and early '80s where solid state was all the rage - there were some bloody good analog solid state amps appearing at that time which were in no way looking for a tube tone since tube technology was considered to be obsolete.
I like analogue Solid State amps that make no effort to be "tube-like", and I'm proud of it...

...A little too proud, to be honest.
Last edited by Blompcube at Jul 11, 2009,
#10
Here are a few...some of these might not be high gain enough for your metal tastes...just depends but they will definitely have your blues and rock covered. Might need to buy a boost, OD, or EQ pedal in the future if the gain isn't high enough. Some are over the $400 budget, but you could always make an offer/save a little more.


http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1263366027.html

http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1262543726.html

http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1261266598.html

http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1222394810.html

http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1218425800.html

http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1234633509.html

http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1260036327.html

http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1230203770.html
Last edited by eyebanez333 at Jul 11, 2009,
#11
The SCXD is going to sound the best, but it's only got a 10" speaker. So you'd need to consider an ext cab for gigging.
#12
Quote by eyebanez333
Here are a few...some of these might not be high gain enough for your metal tastes...just depends but they will definitely have your blues and rock covered. Might need to buy a boost, OD, or EQ pedal in the future if the gain isn't high enough. Some are over the $400 budget, but you could always make an offer/save a little more.



do u hav any experience with peaveys?

this Peavey Classic 50 410 looks good

http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1261266598.html
#13
I've never played the Classic 50...but the Classic 30's are great amps. Out of all the amps I've found, that Classic 50 was the one that stood out the most in the budget for sure.