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#1
Erm Just a question Pit lurkers..

Am I being politically incorrect if I use the reference word of 'Paki' to relate to someone of asian specimen? or of India and Pakistan.

Seems to me that most white abbreviated slang terms like 'aussie' and 'brit' etc.. are harmless...

But if you shorten Pakistani to 'Paki' ... everyone gets their suicide belts at the ready and the Daily Mail have a field day.

Is this nanny state? and the suppressive engine of the minority (growing to majority)

What's your general consensus? Is it even racist?
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#6
Poeple from Pakistan are only called Paki's... if you called an indian a paki they would probably shoot you.
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Id say it's racist, no point trying to defend yourself otherwise. If they are from Pakistan, say Pakistani, if they are from the middle east, say their country of origin, or middle eastern?
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Id say it's racist, no point trying to defend yourself otherwise. If they are from Pakistan, say Pakistani, if they are from the middle east, say their country of origin, or middle eastern?


Calling someone a "Paki" is not racist. Racist and offensive are not interchangable terms.
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#11
If you call an asian person "Paki" it is very racist.

If you call a Pakistani person "paki" then it's racist/offensive, but as you say, I don't see why.
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#13
It's only racist, because people use it in a racist way:

"Paki Bastards" is something often heard unfortunately..

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and also you never hear anyone say "what a delightful Paki.." just to avoid harm, say pakistani..
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#14
Paki is commonly used as a derogatory term. Grow up and think a bit.
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Yes. Paki is a term of abuse, at least here it is.

In a perfect world it would be fine (like no one thinks 'scot' or 'brit' is an insult) but it's clearly not because usually people say 'paki bastard'.

Also, clearly it would only be a term for Pakistanis. India not being pakistan...
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#16
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Calling someone a "Paki" is not racist. Racist and offensive are not interchangable terms.



So you think if i, a white person, called a black guy a n****r it wouldn't be racist? He IS black?
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Paki is commonly used as a derogatory term. Grow up and think a bit.


Pretty much this.
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Am I being politically incorrect if I use the reference word of 'Paki' to relate to someone of asian specimen? or of India and Pakistan.


I'm sure you would call an Asian person an Asian....
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#20
I personally roomed with qa Pakistani lad at uni.. he didnt mind been called "paki" by his friends, however i think its all down to context..

Seems to me that if it had never been used in a derogatory way in the first place it would be an acceptable word to use..

Imagine for instance if "Brit" was originally used in a derogatory way... things would be different
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Nope. You have a skewed definition of racism. But this is a debate for another time. I'm not gonna start this up again.
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#22
Yes, it's racist, but mostly in the way that most people I know use the word.

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#23
Depends how the words are used. If they're used in a derogatory manner it could be considered racist. But if I referred to my friend as a Yank/Paki/Brit/whatever, people shouldn't be working up a sweat.

It's completely stupid how politically correct everyone's becoming. I work in a pub, and I often have to direct waiters to customers. If the customer is black, I daren't say "the black man", instead I have to give the colour of his shirt or something. Completely stupid.
#24
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Nope. You have a skewed definition of racism. But this is a debate for another time. I'm not gonna start this up again.


Technically racist or not, it's an offensive and derogatory term, it shouldn't be used.

By the way 'yank' or 'brit' are not the same sort of nickname as 'paki'... as 'paki' is only really used in a negative context.
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#25
Yeah, it is racist. It's not just an abbreviation like Brit is...
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Yeah, it is racist. It's not just an abbreviation like Brit is...


Yes it is?

Unless you're just referring to its obvious connotations?
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#28
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Technically racist or not, it's an offensive and derogatory term, it shouldn't be used.

By the way 'yank' or 'brit' are not the same sort of nickname as 'paki'... as 'paki' is only really used in a negative context.



I thought I made it pretty clear in my post that I still consider it offensive.
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#30
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I thought I made it pretty clear in my post that I still consider it offensive.


It shouldn't make any difference then.
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It shouldn't make any difference then.



I didn't say it did. I just hate when people instantly think offensive and racist are the same thing. That spreads ignorance and people lose jobs over it.
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I didn't say it did. I just hate when people instantly think offensive and racist are the same thing. That spreads ignorance and people lose jobs over it.


Well i don't think people should care at the difference, if you loose a job over being racist, fair enough, if you loose a job over being offensive, fair enough.
#33
To quote sickipedia:

Why is it offensive to call a Pakistani person a Paki? After all, it's just like calling an Australian person an Aussie, or a British person a Brit, or a Frenchman a cunt.


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Yes it is?

Unless you're just referring to its obvious connotations?


Yeah, I'm referring to the connotations.
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#36
paki is like ******. It's derogatory and offensive.
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#37
I suppose I could get into a whole thing about how an inanimate object such as a word cannot be offensive, and only the intention of the person saying the word can give it such a label... Or I could say it is considered a pretty nasty racial slur. Going with Pakistani would be better.
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#38
I always figured that Paki would be just the same as Brit, Scot or Aussie. But since it was always used in a negative way, it stuck and is seen as racist. Where as Brit, Scot or Aussie are never really used as an insult.

EDIT: But yes I would definitely see why it is considered racist to refer to someone from India as a Paki.
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#39
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um yeah, people from pakistan are totally different than people from india.
and obviously if its commonly used in a derogatory way then its a bad word to use.


Not "totally different." They lived in one country until 60 years ago...
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#40
I'm what you'd call a paki and I'm not really offended by it. Mind you, I get called raghead now and then, and that doesn't offend me either. I just wish they'd cook bacon before they throw it at me. Anyway, the contraction in itself isn't racist, but the history of the term is. It's been used as a racist epithet for a long time, and gradually a stigma has become attached to it which people consider offensive, much the same way as we consider a given swear word offensive, e.g "fuck". People say it's an offensive word, but only because it has a history, and they've been told that it's offensive. If I start using "blocktofoo" as an epithet for black people without telling them what it means, I'd get some blank stares. If I called them niggers, I'd probably get a lawsuit, even though the word itself doesn't sound offensive.

Oh yeah, and for the record, calling an Indian a paki just makes you look like a twat, regardless of how they take it. It's like calling a Palestinian an Israeli.
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