#1
Hi,

I play post-rock, doom, sludge-metal in a band.
And I have a fender telecaster standard. (also a h&k tube 50, 70ies greenback cab and only delay and reverb).
I really like my tone but I would like a more humbuckery (sorry for the english) sound in my bridge pup.
I've heard a lot about seymour duncan hotrails and mini-humbuckers.
Wich one is the best option?
Are there any beter ones out there?

cheers
Hendrik
#2
Adrian Smith uses hotrails...but obviously even iron maiden aren't as heavy as the stuff you're playing (im guessing neurosis kinda stuff?)

really you need actives like EMGs or Blackouts but I don't know whether or not they do them for teles...they may do so check out the EMG website but i've just never looked into it
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#3
i'd say emg's or blackouts
and yes you can put emg's in a tele,they're in the jim root signature
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#5
yea you can put EMGs in teles, gary moore uses 'em
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#8
Quote by Brett08
i'd say emg's or blackouts
and yes you can put emg's in a tele,they're in the jim root signature
That's only because the JR Tele has a fixed bridge without the metal tele bridge plate.
I have a Duncan Hot Rails in my Standard Tele (pic in profile) and that guitar gets really heavy.
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#9
i've got a hot rails in my mim tele and love it!
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#10
EMG's are good for tight puchy distortion.

HE WANTS SLUDGE!!
[and post rock and doom...neither of which the emg's are suited for]

http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/pickups_sdhumsm1.htm

Look at the descriptions...i've found (of the few SD's i've tried) them to be accurate.

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You got somethin to say?

Henis, how's the other gear acquisition going?
Last edited by unet at Jul 13, 2009,
#12
Quote by unet
EMG's are good for tight puchy distortion.

HE WANTS SLUDGE!!

http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/pickups_sdhumsm1.htm

Look at the descriptions...i've found (of the few SD's i've tried) them to be accurate.


You got somethin to say?

Henis, how's the other gear acquisition going?


Good, I'm gaining some money for the moment and I'm getting there.
I've also completely retubed my h&k and it sounds awesome now, and I found a mix and p.a. out at the back, so I will be recording with it soon, that's going to sound awesome.
What SD's would you really recommend?
And can you put them all in the brigde position of a tele?

thanks man.
#13
Quote by PuppetMaster91
Adrian Smith uses hotrails...but obviously even iron maiden aren't as heavy as the stuff you're playing (im guessing neurosis kinda stuff?)

really you need actives like EMGs or Blackouts but I don't know whether or not they do them for teles...they may do so check out the EMG website but i've just never looked into it


Yup, neurosis, isis, cult of luna, tool, mastodon, I never heard of a sludge, post-rock band using EMG's though, cleans are really important for me to, you see.
#14
Quote by mmjohn
i've got a hot rails in my mim tele and love it!

does it handle drop tunings well?
(drop C mostly)
#15
Those are all mini's so i figure they all will fit.

I'm using a normal sized TB-5 [the floating bridge version of the SH-5].
Very middy pickup, awesome low end response too.
No mud whatsoever.

I'd recommend it but i don't think it's exactly what you want.
For sludge, i generally tune LOW and use my bridge, neck and middle pups regularly.

What exactly do you think is lacking in your current pups as far as frequencies/tone go?
#16
Quote by Van Noord
That's only because the JR Tele has a fixed bridge without the metal tele bridge plate.
I have a Duncan Hot Rails in my Standard Tele (pic in profile) and that guitar gets really heavy.

same question: can it handle drop C?
thanks for replying
#17
Quote by unet
Those are all mini's so i figure they all will fit.

I'm using a normal sized TB-5 [the floating bridge version of the SH-5].
Very middy pickup, awesome low end response too.
No mud whatsoever.

I'd recommend it but i don't think it's exactly what you want.
For sludge, i generally tune LOW and use my bridge, neck and middle pups regularly.

What exactly do you think is lacking in your current pups as far as frequencies/tone go?


The standard pp get's really muddy at high volumes.
I want a little more bass and just a tighter sound.
I still wan't that nice deep fuzz my amp gives me though, so emg's are out of the question.
I would like a stronger palm mute sound to.
#18
Sounds like an SH-5 to me

On that page, the SM2b and SM 3b look good.
2 has a ceramic magnet, 3 has an Alnico V.

Alnico will be warmer but ceramic has more clarity.
Forsaknazreal and Kevin saale both helped me pick my pickup.
Give em a holler.

Look up clips on youtube.

Me actually recommending mini buckers is pointless since i've not tried any of em.

You might also want to consider an EQ if muddiness is the only problem and you're okay with single coils.


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Last edited by unet at Jul 13, 2009,
#19
i don't play in C but it's in drop D most of the time and sound great.
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#20
Quote by henis
same question: can it handle drop C?
thanks for replying
Yes, I often have it in drop C. Very clear and cutting with thick palm mute chunk.


*General Disclaimer*

Don't confuse single sized humbuckers with mini humbuckers. They are not the same thing. Mini humbuckers are smaller than usual humbuckers and do not fit in a single coils sized slot.
Single sized humbuckers for a Strat will not fit in a single sized Tele bridge.
You have to buy a Tele single sized (three screw triangle shape) humbucker to fit a Tele bridge. These are made by Seymour Duncan, Dimarzio and GFS.
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KRANK 412
MESA 412
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DIMARZIO
CELESTION
#21
Quote by Van Noord
Yes, I often have it in drop C. Very clear and cutting with thick palm mute chunk.


*General Disclaimer*

Don't confuse single sized humbuckers with mini humbuckers. They are not the same thing. Mini humbuckers are smaller than usual humbuckers and do not fit in a single coils sized slot.
Single sized humbuckers for a Strat will not fit in a single sized Tele bridge.
You have to buy a Tele single sized (three screw triangle shape) humbucker to fit a Tele bridge. These are made by Seymour Duncan, Dimarzio and GFS.


Ahn yes, I was thinking that myself, thanks for making that clear.
I think a hot rail is what is am searching for.