#1
2 Years ago I bought a Dean from Hell ML. Gorgeous. Played beautifully and really caught the crowds attention.

One day I leaned it against my bed and it got knocked, fell forward straight onto my distortion pedal and snapped the neck...

I was distraught, but I claimed house insurance on it and went and bought a Schecter Blackjack ATX.

Now, today I opened up the case and looked at my ML today, took a few pictures and im asking you guys if you think this is fixable and if so how much can you estimate. I live in the UK so if you can give me a price in £'s that'd be very helpful.
















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#2
Wood glue and clamp that bitch? whats the worst that can happen your not using it now anyway.
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#3
Yeah you have a lot of surface area since it's such a long break so clamping and gluing would be pretty straightforward.

I have a video somewhere of me woodgluing and clamping a Les Paul. It worked really well and I sold the guitar later because it looked so nice.


Please hold while I find this video.

EDIT: Here we go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H41stfp-NVQ
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#4
In the other forum someone suggested I find a professional to do this for me, do you think this is a professionals job to fix or would I be perfectly capable doing it myself?
#5
Is the break through the fretboard?
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#6
if you really dont feel comfortable doing it yourself, then take it to a professional. but the jobs not really that hard. but taking it to somebody will probably be at least $100usd. probably more like $200usd.
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#8
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It has not gone into the fretboard, its just the neck thats been cut.

Well if that's the case, finish the break and get all the pieces and titebond that mother back together. Be sure to clamp it down really good. Leave it for 24 hours then sand it smooth, repaint etc.
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#10
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Finish the break!? O.O I dont know if I have the balls to do that to this beaut.

DON'T FINISH IT!
It can be re-set the way it is! It'll obviously need gluing & clamping.
Can you see your truss-rod channel route?
If you do this yourself, DON'T GET ANY ON IT!

It's honestly really simple to pull a break like this back into a perfect playing guitar, more often than not, they're stronger too.
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#11
Well it's not much of beaut right now.

That's like calling someone with their head cut off beautiful.
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#12
Lol true. So my options are, DONT finish the break, just fill it up and clamp it nicely, or pay 150 bucks and go to a professional..

Hmmmm...
#13
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Well it's not much of beaut right now.

That's like calling someone with their head cut off beautiful.


Meh, depends on the body.

As for the neck problem, I've only fixed one neck similar to this and that had already been broken completely off (not through the fretboard surprisingly..)

To me, it would make more sense to break it before gluing.
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#14
if you dont want to break it, i would think that a carefull hand amd a syringe full of glue should do the trick (and clamps ect)

you aint got nothing to lose if you allready got insurance and got a new guitar...
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#15
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if you dont want to break it, i would think that a carefull hand amd a syringe full of glue should do the trick (and clamps ect)

you aint got nothing to lose if you allready got insurance and got a new guitar...

If you choose to do it this way you still need to pull the split wider to inject the titebond. By breaking it off and gluing it you can ensure a good layer (lost for words at the moment). This could also help your glue avoid the truss route.

I guess if you were good with a syringe. I just know that I'd accidentally squeeze too hard or something and pump the truss rod with it.
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#16
^ metal-matt.

you are right I have nothing to lose so I am just gonna go for it. I havent made up my mind on whether to break it or not but I will do this myself, save me alot of money.

Thank you guys.
#17
DO NOT finish the break.
With a break this drastic and likely going into the truss route, I'd say that if you want to play it again, take it to a tech.
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#18
Oh nooo my plans are foiled. Ok what you said sounded like I could seriously screw up my guitar. Ill go to a tech lol.
#19
If you feel REALLY confident, confident enough to not get any glue at all on the truss rod, the go for it. But it'll be tricky with that big of a crack.
Good luck!
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#20
1. take it to a tech to fix it
2. dont post two threads on the same topic (i swear i saw another, may be wrong)
3. be nice to your guitars so this wont happen
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#21
^^^

1. I came here for everyones advice.
2. I posted in the guitar forum, and they directed me here.
3. Everybody makes mistakes and accidents.

Thank you for everyone who has been kind and helpful.
#22
Don't finish the break. That would break the fretboard. Spread Titebond Original throughout the crack. Clap that sucker with as many clamps as you can. Real clamps, not trigger operated weak plastic ones. I would dowel the neck heel area. Let it dry for 2 days. Then I would probably refinish the whole guitar. You might not need to, but I would.
Of course, like Baby Joel said, you will have a hard time not ruining the truss rod cavity with glue.

Do a cost analysis. If you want this guitar (or a similar one) and the sum is greater than zero, it is mathematically worth it.
(cost of similar used guitar) - (repair cost + devaluation because it had to be repaired) = ???
#23
or you chould sand the neck completely after glueing it which would make your crack flush with the neck and a lot of people feel they play faster on an unfinished neck.
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#24
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(cost of similar used guitar) - (repair cost + devaluation because it had to be repaired) = ???

Personally, if that happened, I'd sell it to a guitar shop, it's not a severe break.

If not, I'd stick it on eBay as an unwanted gift or maybe even a blemished finish.
Most neck breaks are unseeable after a tech has had there hands on it, I know mine's like that, he is perfect at making it 'original' so to speak.
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#25
What is the worst that could happen if the glue damages the truss rod.

So basically, I want none of the glue touching the rod? Why?
#26
If the glue touches the truss rod, it means the truss rod will be glued to the wood. The glue you're using (Titebond original, or other wood glue) will dry and bond harder than wood. Basically, you'll not be able to use the truss rod.
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#28
If you're confident:

1. Use a steam injector, or powerful steam iron and a scraper, to tease the fingerboard off.

2. Wiggle the truss rod and fillet out,

3. Fill the crack to hell with glue, then clamp.. with tape to prevent glue getting in the truss rod channel,

4. Glue the fingerboard back on.


You can't really just squeeze glue into it as it stands, because it WILL get into the truss rod channel, then foul your rod up. You also can't finish the break, because it would almost definitely damage your fingerboard.


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You'd need to adjust it before and after a repair like this. Release it first, to take the strain off the neck, then set it up properly afterwards, because the strength of the neck would be different.
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#29
Your best bet would be to remove the fretboard, in the Electric Guitar forum I didn't even think about the truss rod channel. With the fretboard off and removing the truss rod (maybe) you could finish the break (if you want to) and use the flat edge where the fretboard was as a square side to clamp/rest/sit/etc against a table or other structure. After the glue is fully cured you could run a router or a carefully guided Dremel down through the channel to remove excess glue. Then install the truss rod again and mount the fretboard just like a build.

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#32
Kinda similar, but this is at the nut:
http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/crack.htm
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#33
Finishing that break will mean snapping the fretboard, so removing that first will be one million percenty necessary. It all depends on your confidence in your own handy repair skills, and also how much it means to you to get it back in playing contition. It can never hurt to ask a proper guy how much he'd charge for the fix.