#1
What should I purchase? I have an Ibanez IJSB190, a Digitech BP200, and a Peavey Max 115 (all explained in another one of my threads).

I am wondering as to what I should buy. I play in a Post-Hardcore band (although I am highly influenced by death and progressive metal) in drop-c. I don't know if I should buy a new amp, new pedals, or a new bass. My options are as follows:

Amps:

Gallien-Krueger 4x10
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/GallienKrueger-410BLXII-4-x-10-Bass-Cabinet?sku=601054

Acoustic 4x10
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Acoustic-B410-400W-4x10-Bass-Cabinet?sku=600775

Fender Bassman 4x10
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Bassman-410-4X10-Bass-Cabinet?sku=600587

Basses: (yes, I have tried out all these basses and I have loved them all)

Ibanez ATK300
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-ATK300-Electric-Bass-?sku=511834

Ibanez BTB200
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-BTB200-Electric-4String-Bass?sku=517952

Fender Jazz
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Standard-Jazz-Bass?sku=501169#used

Squier Vintage Modified
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-Vintage-Modified-Jazz-Bass?sku=519639

Schecter Stilletto Extreme
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Schecter-Guitar-Research-Stiletto-Extreme4-Bass?sku=528006

Warwick Corvette Standard (yeah, it's expensive as ****, but I could save up for it)
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Warwick-Corvette-Standard-Bass?sku=519128

Pedals:

Big Muff
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/ElectroHarmonix-Bass-Big-Muff-Distortion-Pedal?sku=528002

Ibanez Synthesizer
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-SB7-Synthesizer-Bass-Pedal?sku=150237

Flanger
Can't find a link. A nice flanger would do though.

Boss Overdrive
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-ODB3-Bass-OverDrive-Pedal?sku=151396


Any help would be appreciated. Also, if one can find a better example than please do tell.
#2
the Warwick is worth saving for. do it.

the Fender looks nice to me. the GK was alright. if you want a big muff, instead get a supercollider.
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Warwick Fortress>>Acoustic AB50

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#3
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the Warwick is worth saving for. do it.

the Fender looks nice to me. the GK was alright. if you want a big muff, instead get a supercollider.

Fender amp or bass, sir?
#5
Quote by tubatom868686
Forget the fender amp, out of those, go for the acoustic.

Warwick

Tuner pedal before anything else

My current pedal has a tuner built in.
#6
I meant amp. and a tuner is a tuner is a tuner. don't buy a tuner if you have a working one.
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I wouldn't call what we have here on the Bass Forum a mentality. It's more like the sharing part of an AA meeting.

Quote by Jason Jillard
HUMANITY WHATS WRONG WITH YOU.


Warwick Fortress>>Acoustic AB50

http://www.myspace.com/rustingbloom
#7
Quote by the humanity
the Warwick is worth saving for. do it.

the Fender looks nice to me. the GK was alright. if you want a big muff, instead get a supercollider.


I second all of this, except the GK and the Fender because I have no experience with either.

I don't know which you should buy though. Can somebody give me an opinion on the Peavey amp? Unless it's mediocre or worse, get the 'Wick. If it does sucks, get a new amp.
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Last edited by kugelspot at Jul 14, 2009,
#8
Quote by Royal Celebi
My current pedal has a tuner built in.


Nvm then. Of those, I recommend OD. But not boss. Boss basically sucks at everything, except the housings for the pedals.
#9
Quote by the humanity
I meant amp. and a tuner is a tuner is a tuner. don't buy a tuner if you have a working one.


I disagree about the tuner. I have a crappy little korg thing that is only just more accurate than tuning by ear and I would kill for a rack-mount chromatic tuner.
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#10
Quote by tubatom868686
Nvm then. Of those, I recommend OD. But not boss. Boss basically sucks at everything, except the housings for the pedals.

No they don't. They maybe a little overpriced and some more specific pedals might be better for focused effect, but Boss makes great products.
#11
what head are you going to use.
Yamaha TRB1006
Fender MIA jazz bass
Hora Hybrid double bass
Hartke lh 500
Ev 606L
Epiphone les paul
#12
Quote by fatgoogle
what head are you going to use.

You see, that's another problem I'm running into. Can I use my Peavey combo as the head or do I have to buy a separate one?
#13
With the drop C thing I'd be going for a cab with good frequency response, I'd advise looking into a hartke HyDrive cab if you don't want to get a 15" to go with the 10's.

What is your Peavey Combo?

EDIT: You can forget the GK or Acoustic for producing good low end - they aren't ported
Gear:
Washburn RB2500 (5 String)
Yamaha BB400 Fretless (1981)
Carlo Giordano 3/4 Upright (White)
Cort Action 4 (Stereo-fied)
Orange Bass Terror 500
Orange 1x15 Cab
Boss GT-6 Bass Multi-effects
Last edited by Double Basser at Jul 14, 2009,
#14
The gk will do ok form low tunings. Can you post a link to your current amp. But i think youll need to get a head. And it will be better to get a head.
Yamaha TRB1006
Fender MIA jazz bass
Hora Hybrid double bass
Hartke lh 500
Ev 606L
Epiphone les paul
#15
^no unported cab can match a ported cab for low end - period

EDIT: http://www.peavey.com/products/browse.cfm/action/detail/item/113791/MAX%28R%29%20115.cfm

I'm assuming this is your amp. Even if you can there is no point running a 4X10 off that, 60 watts is not enough to gig with and certainly not enough to justify a 4x10
Gear:
Washburn RB2500 (5 String)
Yamaha BB400 Fretless (1981)
Carlo Giordano 3/4 Upright (White)
Cort Action 4 (Stereo-fied)
Orange Bass Terror 500
Orange 1x15 Cab
Boss GT-6 Bass Multi-effects
Last edited by Double Basser at Jul 14, 2009,
#16
That ashdown 4x8 is unported as far as i could see and held up a low B amzingly well. Cab design has a lot to do with it aswell, i hear lots of people use g-k and down tune on basschat. No probs there.
Yamaha TRB1006
Fender MIA jazz bass
Hora Hybrid double bass
Hartke lh 500
Ev 606L
Epiphone les paul
#17
Quote by Double Basser
With the drop C thing I'd be going for a cab with good frequency response, I'd advise looking into a hartke HyDrive cab if you don't want to get a 15" to go with the 10's.

What is your Peavey Combo?

EDIT: You can forget the GK or Acoustic for producing good low end - they aren't ported


The Hartke HyDrive, you mean the 115C?

What does "ported" mean?

Quote by Double Basser
^no unported cab can match a ported cab for low end - period

EDIT: http://www.peavey.com/products/brow...8R%29%20115.cfm

I'm assuming this is your amp. Even if you can there is no point running a 4X10 off that, 60 watts is not enough to gig with and certainly not enough to justify a 4x10


Yeah, thats my amp.

If it is not enough then what is your suggestion? A new amplifier combination above anything else?
#18
Quote by Royal Celebi
The Hartke HyDrive, you mean the 115C?

What does "ported" mean?


Yeah, thats my amp.

If it is not enough then what is your suggestion? A new amplifier combination above anything else?

Not just the 115C - all hydrive's have good bass response - the 4x10 goes down to 30hz while the 8x10 goes down to 25hz.

Ported means the cabinet is not sealed, it allows air to escape the cab thus making the speakers more efficient (and louder) because they aren't fighting air pressure

I reckon just go for the head instead of a new combo - hartke, ashdown and carvin are all good bang for buck
Gear:
Washburn RB2500 (5 String)
Yamaha BB400 Fretless (1981)
Carlo Giordano 3/4 Upright (White)
Cort Action 4 (Stereo-fied)
Orange Bass Terror 500
Orange 1x15 Cab
Boss GT-6 Bass Multi-effects
#19
Quote by Double Basser
Not just the 115C - all hydrive's have good bass response - the 4x10 goes down to 30hz while the 8x10 goes down to 25hz.

Ported means the cabinet is not sealed, it allows air to escape the cab thus making the speakers more efficient (and louder) because they aren't fighting air pressure

I reckon just go for the head instead of a new combo - hartke, ashdown and carvin are all good bang for buck


So if I go for the head, what do I do with it? Use it in accordance with my current? Or buy a cab with it? If so, what combination would work best?

I'm incredibly sorry for all the questions. I know very little about amplification and feel like I'm annoying you guys.
#20
you'd have to buy the cab as well as the head but as far as combination provided the wattage is greater then the head and the ohms are a match you are pretty much set. Keeping in mind though you should buy an 8 ohm cab is you are gonna put another cab on later

Quote by fatgoogle
That ashdown 4x8 is unported as far as i could see and held up a low B amzingly well. Cab design has a lot to do with it aswell, i hear lots of people use g-k and down tune on basschat. No probs there.


Quote by Ashdown Website
Frequency Response 60Hz - 20kHz


sure it may have sounded fine on it's own but put it in a band situation and you'll have nothing but highs and mids which suits some genre's but i prefer the option of being able to bring the thunder with a single ported 15 that covers 20hz to 22khz without a horn

EDIT: that's the specs for the 4x10 mentioned earlier in the thread - that 4x8 is ported
Gear:
Washburn RB2500 (5 String)
Yamaha BB400 Fretless (1981)
Carlo Giordano 3/4 Upright (White)
Cort Action 4 (Stereo-fied)
Orange Bass Terror 500
Orange 1x15 Cab
Boss GT-6 Bass Multi-effects
Last edited by Double Basser at Jul 15, 2009,
#21
Quote by Double Basser
you'd have to buy the cab as well as the head but as far as combination provided the wattage is greater then the head and the ohms are a match you are pretty much set. Keeping in mind though you should buy an 8 ohm cab is you are gonna put another cab on later


Woah. Alright, please try to rephrase that in a way in which I can understand.
#25
Quote by Website
If we had a perfect amplifier (and it was plugged into an outlet that had unlimited current capability), its output power rating would double each time the load impedance was halved. For example, let's say the amplifier puts out 200 watts per channel at 8 ohms. At 4 ohms, it would put out 400 watts per channel, at 2 ohms it would put out 800 watts per channel, and at 1 ohm it would put out 1600 watts per channel. For the perfect amplifier, one could keep going with this until the load impedance approached zero, at which time the amplifier output would approach infinity! On the other side, if the load impedance was 16 ohms, the amplifier would put out only 100 watts per channel. In this direction, one could keep raising the load impedance, and the power output would grow smaller and smaller.


http://www.rocketroberts.com/techart/amp.htm

Hope this helps, i can't really think of another way of explaining it
Gear:
Washburn RB2500 (5 String)
Yamaha BB400 Fretless (1981)
Carlo Giordano 3/4 Upright (White)
Cort Action 4 (Stereo-fied)
Orange Bass Terror 500
Orange 1x15 Cab
Boss GT-6 Bass Multi-effects
#26
Quote by Double Basser
http://www.rocketroberts.com/techart/amp.htm

Hope this helps, i can't really think of another way of explaining it

So let me get this straight. The less ohms, the more power that comes out of the speaker? Ergo, if I were to buy an amp with 400 watts and 8 ohms, then I would need a head with 400 or less watts and 8 ohms?
#27
Yes, ohms is the amount of resistance in a circuit. You can have more ohms in a bigger speaker or amp as you have a lot more power to push out than with like, a 15W.

And the head is supposed to be less watts than the cabinet, and the ohms are supposed to match (I think).
#28
Quote by Steve08
Yes, ohms is the amount of resistance in a circuit. You can have more ohms in a bigger speaker or amp as you have a lot more power to push out than with like, a 15W.

And the head is supposed to be less watts than the cabinet, and the ohms are supposed to match (I think).

Ah ok. Thank you. If you do not mind, could you take a look at the other thread I just posted? I need some help in decided what speaker size to buy.
#29
LOL
find me a 15 speaker that can go over 5 khz, its never going to be, sure find me a 10" speaker can go over 22 khz.
I just hope your being sarcastic.


Quote by Double Basser
you'd have to buy the cab as well as the head but as far as combination provided the wattage is greater then the head and the ohms are a match you are pretty much set. Keeping in mind though you should buy an 8 ohm cab is you are gonna put another cab on later




sure it may have sounded fine on it's own but put it in a band situation and you'll have nothing but highs and mids which suits some genre's but i prefer the option of being able to bring the thunder with a single ported 15 that covers 20hz to 22khz without a horn

EDIT: that's the specs for the 4x10 mentioned earlier in the thread - that 4x8 is ported
Yamaha TRB1006
Fender MIA jazz bass
Hora Hybrid double bass
Hartke lh 500
Ev 606L
Epiphone les paul
#30
^no i am not

Quote by Trace Elliot 7215 Owners Manual
Frequency Response -3dB @ 20hz & 22khz


http://www.trace-elliot.co.uk/pop_product.php?&flag=AU&lan=UK&obs=Y&key=2216

feel free to see for yourself
Gear:
Washburn RB2500 (5 String)
Yamaha BB400 Fretless (1981)
Carlo Giordano 3/4 Upright (White)
Cort Action 4 (Stereo-fied)
Orange Bass Terror 500
Orange 1x15 Cab
Boss GT-6 Bass Multi-effects