#1
I know this is a trick you can do with a guitar, but what about with a bass? Obviously, your gain is going to need to be cranked up HIGH. You'll need some hot pickups (active?). Your treble will need to be turned up pretty high on your bass and your amp, and you might even need a pedal like a tube screamer or some other high distortion pedal to cut your lows a bit.

With ALL that, could you pull it off? I honestly love the effect. It sounds so freaking trippy and different.
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#2
Yes, it would take some serious EQ-ing/gain/etc., but I don't see why it wouldn't.
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#3
Freakin A. :]
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#5
I do not have a tubed amp, active pickups, or a tube screamer or eq pedal... and I don't think Guitar Center would appreciate me screaming that much in their store.
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#6
I'm confused about what you mean. Do you mean something like a pinch harmonic?
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#8
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I do not have a tubed amp, active pickups, or a tube screamer or eq pedal... and I don't think Guitar Center would appreciate me screaming that much in their store.

LMAO

Do it. Post the vid.
#9
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Nope. You literally scream into the pickup.


ah...



I've talked through mine a bit
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#11
It works. But if you think nobody cares about/hears the bass player when you're playing normally...
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#12
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It works. But if you think nobody cares about/hears the bass player when you're playing normally...

As tragic as this is, in most cases it's true.
Still, I say scream until you can scream no more...
Preferably at Guitar Center...
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#13
You know what. I just might >->

Thanks for the help though. At least now I know it will work. I'll probably practice a bit with someone else's stuff before I decide to change my shopping list to reflect it any.
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#15
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It works. But if you think nobody cares about/hears the bass player when you're playing normally...


Well you gota make yourself heard, and alot of people start to ask what the guy with the oversized guitar thing is playing when they see me jumping around on stage
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#16
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You know what. I just might >->


I might try it too. I'm facinated by this thing. Just when I though I knew every guitar/bass technique out there... This is amazing. I'm speechless
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#18
As long as there's something metal (and ferromagnetic) to vibrate in sympathy with your shouting then it should work. I think in the Paul Gilbert Video he's making the string vibrate with his voice. I've also heard of people (sonic youth, I think) just shouting into a guitar pickup with a metal cover which did the same thing.
#19
Hrm. I wonder if your voice would be enough to vibrate the strings on a bass in an understandable manner >.> Course, guess I could do the same thing by making or getting a metal cover for my pickup.


EDIT: The inspiration for this came from watching Jon Foreman do it. I don't have the concert DVD on me, so I can't see exactly how he's doing it, but it sounded and looked epic. He had some of his effects on. Had a really mysterious sound.
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#20
Step one : get a high gain pedal
Step two : scream into pick ups


You can use a megaphone if you'd like, it sounds good.

To emulate this without literally screaming into your pickups, use a Harmonica mic and a tube amp and a lot of overdrive, but do NOT scream into the mic, your ears will die (you only have to whisper with a Harmonica mic).
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#21
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Step one : get a high gain pedal
Step two : scream into pick ups


You can use a megaphone if you'd like, it sounds good.



And this will work with any pickups? passive or active or whatever? (has a squier Jazz bass)
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#22
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And this will work with any pickups? passive or active or whatever? (has a squier Jazz bass)

Yes. The hotter the pups, the less gain is needed. I can't scream into my J pickup, but I can into my P. My pickups are very bad though, so it is impractical because I need to turn the gain up heaps and use a lot of high gain pedals, etc.

A guitar that makes a lot of feedback is good as well.


Most of the time I see screaming into Jazzmasters and Jags; I'm not sure what basses would be quite like that.

anyway, yeah, it can be done on any guitar, but you just need to help passive guitars out a little.
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#23
Right. So, for a bass, I'll need probably some active pickups. That, or a tubed amp. I'm working on the high-gain pedal part. Just not sure what one to get for a bass.
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#24
a guitar pedal might be nice because of the more highs. The better your instrument is at harmonics, the better it will be at this (so make sure to boost your high mids too)
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#25
So, a Tube Screamer would work good?

(is eyeballing that Delta-labs version for only 50 bucks)
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#26
It works alot better with a badly potted pickup. This'd lead me to assume you would be better with passive rather than active pickups. I think I read somewhere you can, like, un-pot a pickup and remove some wax to get more microphonic properties - however, be aware of the -ve's that come with having badly potted pickups -> feedback, lots of popping&crackling etc.
#27
Well, jim, they are better for different reasons. Protected passive pickups are probably the worst thing to use (though you can if you have enough gain and harmonic). Unprotected and active pickups are both good (in my example I mention Jazzmasters, which are active and unprotected if I remember correctly).

I wouldn't mod your bass just to be able to do this.

I can't help you much besides this, just saying what I know (which is nothing technical). If you honestly cannot get it to work (or it is too faint to hear over yourself screaming (so yeah, you need your amp LOUD)). You can try a phone if you're feeling adventurous. First try something simple like putting your phone against your pups and listening to a ringtone. I once used my amp as a listening monitor with my phone on speaker (and used a phone mic for voice), it was funny.
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#28
Hrm. I will try it out with just my stuff then, but I have been looking to mod my bass anyways.
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#29
Is there anything you can use as a substitute for gain? I have a Fender Bassman and I want to try this, but i has no gain options and i have a pedalboard without a gain pedal in it. Is there any EQing that may work.

Also, how can this really be used for helpful purposes I'm very intrigued by this technique, but i don't know what good it can do.
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#30
megaphone? It just sounds sweet. A megaphone should produce the right effect, though it will add extra distortion.,
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#31
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Is there anything you can use as a substitute for gain? I have a Fender Bassman and I want to try this, but i has no gain options and i have a pedalboard without a gain pedal in it. Is there any EQing that may work.

Also, how can this really be used for helpful purposes I'm very intrigued by this technique, but i don't know what good it can do.

Sadly, I don't think you can do it without gain. I tweaked the EQ every way possible trying to do the thing with the phone, and it didn't work until I turned on my grunge pedal.

And I guess it would be used as a part in songs, I never got the purpose either
#32
It sounds and looks amazing during shows.
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#33
Especially when playing weird trippy songs

*tries to think of a way to cram it into Comfortably Numb*
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#34
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Especially when playing weird trippy songs

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#35
o_o


Brilliant!


But how to go quickly from singing and playing to screaming into pickups? >__>
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Last edited by Tone Deaf at Jul 19, 2009,
#36
So it's just your voice vibrating the strings?
I'm having trouble grasping how this is achieved without your words being made of metal.

When I first opened the thread I though TS was just being a tosser, but it seems he is bang on.
I've never seen or heard anything about people doing this before, it's quite a revelation, so thank you for that.

*Goes to investigate.*