#1
I wondered if someone could help me with advice...I can't decide between marshall haze 40W and laney LC50-112...what do you think is better choice???
#2
I'd say the Laney.

I hear that the Haze isn't very good.
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does haze have some quality problems???


Yeah, it doesn't sound good.
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#6
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I'd say the Laney.

I hear that the Haze isn't very good.


Disagree.

I just got the MHZ40C and it sounds muy excelente. The cleans especially sound heavenly. I really can't explain how absolutely amazing the cleans sound. It takes a little tuning to get the drive channel to sound as good, but it doesn't prove to be that big of a problem to me since I run my effects through the clean channel.

You can't base all of your judgment off of youtube videos. For a while I figured it would just be the tube version of the MG series, since I had an MG50DFX and it sucked balls. However, after buying the Haze 40 I have to say that it is definitely above and beyond.

I'd go for the Haze 40.
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#7
I personally haven't tried either, but people need to stop bashing the Haze. It's already been established that the matching cab for the haze isn't that high of quality, much like any cab that may come with an amp. Gabe said for himself that the Haze was nothing special through its own cab, and could see why people bash it. But then he put it through a higher quality cab, and then he got the classic Marshall tone.

I would go to your local store and try both of them out, but look at other cabs than the Haze cab.
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#8
I'm biased toward laney and have no idea.

I think I am like most people on this thread-or maybe they are biased toward marshall.
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#9
I'd take a Laney Valve over a Haze.
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#10
Get the Laney
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Gabe said for himself that the Haze was nothing special through its own cab, and could see why people bash it. But then he put it through a higher quality cab, and then he got the classic Marshall tone.

I would go to your local store and try both of them out, but look at other cabs than the Haze cab.



This is very true, espeically the 15 watter. The combo is a bit of a one trick pony, since not only is the speaker bad, but also the cab in general. So getting the combo is something I wouldn't recommend.

But then again the LC50-II isn't that great either.

What do you play?
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#12
i have played the haze and listened to clips of it online. i personally think it would make a great amp for a rythem guitarist. i think a lot of people dont like the haze just because its a cheap marshall like mgs but the haze sounds pretty good for rythem.
#14
i believe "vs" threads are against the rules. it often causes arguments, but this seems pretty humanly.

i'd personally opt for neither of those amps, but a vc-50. it has the same glassy clean tones, and thin and crunchy drive tones, but also comes in 30 watts with two celestion speakers. so it breaks up a little eariler than the lc but still sounds louder due to there being an extra speaker. even one speaker can drastically improve the impression of volume.

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i believe "vs" threads are against the rules. it often causes arguments, but this seems pretty humanly.

i'd personally opt for neither of those amps, but a vc-50. it has the same glassy clean tones, and thin and crunchy drive tones, but also comes in 30 watts with two celestion speakers. so it breaks up a little eariler than the lc but still sounds louder due to there being an extra speaker. even one speaker can drastically improve the impression of volume.


Pretty sure you mean the VC30 here, chief.
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#17
I can guarantee that nearly everyone saying that the Haze sucks straight away hasn't tried it out, as it hasn't been out long. Personally I haven't tried either out, but I'd go for the Lanely haha I am useful
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#18
The Haze is pretty okay. I wouldn't mind having one, but I would not pay for one. They're overpriced IMO.
#19
I play stuff like Stone gods, Metallica, some AC/DC...so I need sth adaptable for such a price...Now I have Marshall MG with LTD EC1000
#20
I tried a haze. liked it. looked at the price tag and walked away. Its a little bit over priced. but by no means is it bad. Just awfully priced.

I liked the VC30 i played. Took a ts -808 very nicely to get into gainer territory
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#22
traynor sounds good to me but is it better in quality than haze and lc 50???
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#23
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I play stuff like Stone gods, Metallica, some AC/DC...so I need sth adaptable for such a price...Now I have Marshall MG with LTD EC1000


Well then I think a used JCM800 would be your best bet, you could probably find one.

Otherwise a Haze head and a good cab would be great for you!
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#25
Well how big gigs do you play? I use an 18watter when I paly and I gig alot and I've never had problems.

Really the big difference isn't volume, but more in headroom. I've played both Hazes and they we're about the same volume, but the head broke up earlier.
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#27
I would rather have a Laney AOR 50, but it depends on your styles of music.

Well,this is where I step in.
I've had my AOR 50 for about two months now,I can say that in my opinion,the cleans are brilliant.If your after that glassy clean,look elsewhere but if your after that lovely clean tube tone,with beautifully warm mids,this is a great way to go.Took a bit of figuring out before I could get it to where I like it,but now I like it alot.
The dist though is a bit different,although I wouldn't turn this amp down because of it.The gain just doesn't seem quite right,especially when you have both pre-amp tubes cranked,just seems a bit uncontrolled.But,with the lower gain it works well.
I do wish it had reverb,and the E.Q doesn't seem that effective,but that might be because I'm used to a parametric E.Q.
Having different inputs for clean and gain is rather annoying,but there are ways around this.The dist input CAN get cleans (provided you use the footswitch for the gain boost),but they aren't quite as good as the low gain input.
Or you can do what I do,and run a dist pedal into the clean channel.
But this amp loves it's mids,so if your after metallica tones,look elsewhere.
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#28
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I play only small clubs...


Do you need a lot of headroom? Otherise 15watt ought to be neough.

But a Laney AOR would as said be the best alternative
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#29
I probably won't go to sth used...had bad experience with that...maybe...store where I bought my guitar offered me good price for 2266c ...but I don't have now so much so maybe I will have to wait if I will go fot that...It's hard decision...