#1
so i have a great acoustic but i need a new electric, and now that i just got my first job, i figured instead of wasting all my money on weed, i'd buy a new guitar. i currently have a squier stratwith a super distorion in the bridge. my range is anywhere between 200 and 600 but i would prefer to stay on the low end to have money for pedals and a case.

my current amps are a vypyr 15 and a fender deluxe reverb.

i play everything. speed metal, actually pretty much all metal, emo, ska, classic rock, hippie music, emo, jazz, classical and blues, so it need to be very versatile.

i am learning sweeping right now so the neck has to be fast, but good for chords. i've been playing for almost three years and it will be played live

looks are a factor even though everyone says it should be about sound. i want a les paul type guitar but ill settle for something else if it isn't too boring looking.

ideas so far:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/ESP-LTD-EC-401VF-Electric-Guitar-105316442-i1435802.gc seems good all around, and plays nice, but after buying a case, i'm about 125 over my budget.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Standard-Stratocaster-Electric-Guitar-105156996-i1431991.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Standard-Stratocaster-HSS-Electric-Guitar-105156673-i1431994.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Standard-Telecaster-Electric-Guitar-105156830-i1432037.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ibanez-RG350DX-Electric-Guitar-519415-i1395598.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Paul-Reed-Smith-SE-Custom-22-Electric-Guitar-519370-i1394384.gc

anybody have any recomendations, whether its just a series, or a specific guitar. links apreciated
#4
If that Ibanez has actives its out, the strat with the SSS layout is gone, the tele is a HUGE no-no.

If you like the LP shape go for the ESP, or save up a bit more ($300 or so) and get the LTD EC-1000 Deluxe with Duncans

That or the PRS looks promising, try em out if you can.

EDIT: just looked closer at the Ibanez i dont think those are active so thats another option for you.
Last edited by siverstorm at Jul 15, 2009,
#6
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Godin-Exit-22-Electric-Guitar?sku=511922

Given what you've said I'd be going straight for this. Versatility in spades; single-cut/LP-ish looks. Switch the pickups at a later date and you'll have a guitar for life.




EDIT: Of the ones you've linked to I'd take the PRS... I'd avoid the Ibanez; below the 5 series you'll need a lot of work to turn them into a pro-level instrument.
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Last edited by power freak at Jul 15, 2009,
#7
The PRS is an incredible guitar for the price.


But I'd still recommend you spend your money on weed. Maybe a nice bong like a PHX, ROOR or Blue Dot?
#8
Quote by power freak
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Godin-Exit-22-Electric-Guitar?sku=511922

Given what you've said I'd be going straight for this. Versatility in spades; single-cut/LP-ish looks. Switch the pickups at a later date and you'll have a guitar for life.




EDIT: Of the ones you've linked to I'd take the PRS... I'd avoid the Ibanez; below the 5 series you'll need a lot of work to turn them into a pro-level instrument.

+1
Also the hss strat and the ltd would work.
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#11
Quote by JilaX^
There's no chance in hell you'll get a useable blues tone out of the Ibanez.

LTD or HSS Strat are your best options.

Can you explain your reasoning there? I would like to be "schooled" on why an RG isn't good for blues. And please, try not to make yourself look silly in your explanation.
#12
Those Ibanez's listed should be fine for blues stuff too, they dont look like they have active pups (I know nothing about the Ibanez made pickups, enlightenment please?)
#13
The RG hands down. Eventually you could swap the pups to SDs and coil tap them and you'd have an extremely versatile axe.
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#14
Well an Ibanez won't have that punchy blues sound of a Tele, but you can get good blues sounds out of it, especially with HSH configuration.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Paul-Reed-Smith-SE-Soapbar-Electric-Guitar-515829-i1395103.gc

The pickups can really do anything IMO, love the overall look and feel of it, and it's cheap. Might require a bit of a set-up when bought but it's worth it for the price IMO, and I think it's the best of the SE's other than the semi-hollows.

There's a Soapbar II also, equal in every way besides body shape (the II is Strat shaped), depends which you'd like better.
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#15
Quote by JELIFISH19
Can you explain your reasoning there? I would like to be "schooled" on why an RG isn't good for blues. And please, try not to make yourself look silly in your explanation.



Why do you think?
The guitar simply isn't voiced for it. The stock pick ups on it are just so uncharacteristic for blues. I've seen people try to pull that off. They sounded ghastly. I tried a few myself, just for ****s and giggles, it just couldn't pull it off. It's that simple.
I'm not sure why, tbh. But the entire guitar just isn't built for it.

Quote by TheJem
Well an Ibanez won't have that punchy blues sound of a Tele, but you can get good blues sounds out of it, especially with HSH configuration.


Well, I challenge you to find someone who has a good blues tone with it.
#17
Honestly dude, IMO, the ESP is a really great choice. Even if you are a bit over budget after a case, its worth it. You can get lots of tones from metal to sparkly clean with those. I'll never regret buying mine. They are made well, they feel good and sound good. Really solid guitars.

Best of luck with your choice.
#18
fat strat??
and if the humbucker isnt like hot enoufgh ir watever, you would probably have enought let over cash to swap it out for something with 1000
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#19
Quote by JilaX^
Why do you think?
The guitar simply isn't voiced for it. The stock pick ups on it are just so uncharacteristic for blues. I've seen people try to pull that off. They sounded ghastly. I tried a few myself, just for ****s and giggles, it just couldn't pull it off. It's that simple.
I'm not sure why, tbh. But the entire guitar just isn't built for it.


Well, I challenge you to find someone who has a good blues tone with it.

How is it not built for it? It has two humbuckers and a single coil. You get 2 humbucker options and 3 single coil options and they all sound good with some good pickups. Everyone knows that Ibanez doesn't come with good pickups in 95% of their guitars even if you're paying top dollar. But it works out because you're not paying extra for pickups that you may not (and probably don't) want. And Dimarzio has a great exchange policy that you won't have the opportunity to take advantage of if they came with the pickups. Most people change their pickups anyway so you should never judge a guitar by the pickups. A bluesman will say a Super Distortion sucks while a metalhead will say a Air Classic sucks. The pickups on most guitars are meant to please the most people. That's why the SD JB/Jazz combo and Dimarzio Tone Zone/Air Norton comes stock on so many guitars. If you're spending $1000+ on a guitar, you probably have a good idea of exactly what you're looking for in a guitar. So why should you spend extra on the "Jack of All Trades, Master of None" pickups when you'll change them to something that sounds excellent for what you're using it for? Les Pauls and Strats are both used extensively for blues, I find that RGs are tonally right in the middle with it's own added flare.
#20
Quote by Wolfgangvanroth
budget just got upped to 1000... les paul maybe?



I have a LP Classic I picked up for 1k on craigslist. It plays and sounds like a dream. Not as versatile as some other guitars, but it sounds really sweet and its action is perfect.

If you are going to drop a thousand on a guitar, I would go to GC, play a bunch of guitars you think you might like in the 1-2k range, decide what you want to buy.

Then get on craigslist and find some of whatever you decided on and buy the first used one that you like the way it feels and sounds when you try it out...

Then I would go back to GC and buy whatever strap/picks/strings/etc that you might need in order to throw them a few bucks for wasting their time.

This way you can get a much better guitar than if you buy new, and you will take the time to make sure you buy something that you really will like.
#21
Quote by JELIFISH19
How is it not built for it? It has two humbuckers and a single coil. You get 2 humbucker options and 3 single coil options and they all sound good with some good pickups. Everyone knows that Ibanez doesn't come with good pickups in 95% of their guitars even if you're paying top dollar. But it works out because you're not paying extra for pickups that you may not (and probably don't) want. And Dimarzio has a great exchange policy that you won't have the opportunity to take advantage of if they came with the pickups. Most people change their pickups anyway so you should never judge a guitar by the pickups. A bluesman will say a Super Distortion sucks while a metalhead will say a Air Classic sucks. The pickups on most guitars are meant to please the most people. That's why the SD JB/Jazz combo and Dimarzio Tone Zone/Air Norton comes stock on so many guitars. If you're spending $1000+ on a guitar, you probably have a good idea of exactly what you're looking for in a guitar. So why should you spend extra on the "Jack of All Trades, Master of None" pickups when you'll change them to something that sounds excellent for what you're using it for? Les Pauls and Strats are both used extensively for blues, I find that RGs are tonally right in the middle with it's own added flare.


This.

I still think an RG is the best option for a very versatile guitar.
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#22
Quote by Wolfgangvanroth
budget just got upped to 1000... les paul maybe?


umm do you want a floating bridge? any pickup layout?
#23
Quote by Wolfgangvanroth
budget just got upped to 1000... les paul maybe?

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Godin-xtSA-Flame-Electric-Guitar?sku=512264


/thread

seriously for $1000 this is perhaps one of the most versatile guitars you could possibly buy; it's synth ready should you want to go down that route; piezos for acoustic like tones; HSH for passive sounds

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#24
Quote by power freak
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Godin-xtSA-Flame-Electric-Guitar?sku=512264


/thread

seriously for $1000 this is perhaps one of the most versatile guitars you could possibly buy; it's synth ready should you want to go down that route; piezos for acoustic like tones; HSH for passive sounds



damn, that is one versatile guitar... just a little ugly for me

Playability before looks tho :P
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#25
Quote by azn_guitarist25
umm do you want a floating bridge? any pickup layout?


definitly some kind of TOM, whenter it's string thorugh or a stoptail. but ill go with a hardtail on like an rg or something. definitely a humbucker in the bridge and neck
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#29
After my last trip to gc I fell completely in love with the Paul allendale PRS for only 650 and I'm pretty sure it's the one
#31
Quote by JilaX^
Well, I challenge you to find someone who has a good blues tone with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqKl_CqVo1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McZVbk3rI7c

Great? Hell no. Decent? Yes.

TS, that's a nice PRS (Like there's one that isn't nice). Hope to see you have a NGD soon.
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#32
Quote by siverstorm
EDIT: just looked closer at the Ibanez i dont think those are active so thats another option for you.
I actually think they are. Notice that where the magnets are on normal open coils there are just holes. Also there is the logo on them in white.

I may be wrong though