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#1
Okay pit, so I'm fairly open minded when it comes to music. I personally like Metal, Rock, Blues, Reggae and even classical, and I can understand why other people like other genres of music. The one thing that eludes me currently, though, is peoples adoration of techno. I cannot see any appeal behind this genre, which to me sounds like a computer being kicked down a set of stairs. This may just be me being cynical, but, in any case, please enlighten me Pit to why people can tolerate, nay, enjoy techno "music".

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#2
It is upbeat, and it hypnotizes. It's good dance music. This is for me, though.


#3
I agree with you and would also like an answer.
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#4
because some people have different opinions than you.
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#6
Because it's fun to move around to....if you're the type of person who likes moving around
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#9
it's 100% based on catchiness, there is nothing else to it. those that enjoy synth melodies and simplicity dig it. it is not really for the "raw", "traditional", "complex" music lovers.
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it's 100% based on catchiness, there is nothing else to it. those that enjoy synth melodies and simplicity dig it. it is not really for the "raw", "traditional", "complex" music lovers.


Bullshit. Go listen to Vicious Delicious by infected Mushroom and then tell me there's none of these things in EDM.

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it's 100% based on catchiness, there is nothing else to it. those that enjoy synth melodies and simplicity dig it. it is not really for the "raw", "traditional", "complex" music lovers.

That's absolute bullshit.
I am going to assume because of the pure ignorance in this thread that you guys are lumping all electronic dance music in the "techno" genre. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Techno does indeed suck. That Tiesto, Paul Van Dyk stuff is pretty terrible. But there are some electronic acts that are just as talented as performers in any genre of music. For example, the breakdowns in electronica are, from a compositional point of view, far more complex and subtle than your general metal breakdowns. The way they take apart complex beats and put them back together is mind-boggling.

It may not seem like "real" music because they aren't playing traditional instruments, which is a regular complaint from people who aren't into it, but performance isn't everything. The sheer amount of musical theory applied by these acts is astounding.

If you want to hear some good electronic music, start with the Chemical Brothers, the Crystal Method, and perhaps Squarepusher. Once you get a taste for it, you'll be able to pick out whichever genres you really like, and it's easier to separate the sh!t from the gold.
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#13
Do you by techno you mean the specific genre of techo or just dance kinda music as a whole?

Anyway, to answer your question, it's not designed for home listeing but playing on big club systems, to be danced to. Also, some people like the sounds and textures available from synths. By using electronic drums you can get a bigger, more pounding beat then would be possible with acoustic drums....
#15
Why don't you just stop looking for an answer? If you don't like it, you don't like it. If someone tells you that you're not being open-minded enough, just tell this person that he is a hippy douchebag and go on with your day.

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#16
Im not a huge techno fan but a new genre called glitch hop is really interesting me

As someone who likes music for its complexity there is nothing more complex then a glitch hopp track, go look up artists such as edIT, Krazzy, And Boretta, and then come back and say that techno cant be complex and interesting. The first time i listened to some of this stuff, it blew my mind.

For someone who has never listened to it though, i reccomend you download "crying over pros for no reason" the album is by the artist edIT
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Quote by guitarsftw
it's 100% based on catchiness, there is nothing else to it. those that enjoy synth melodies and simplicity dig it. it is not really for the "raw", "traditional", "complex" music lovers.


Thats a complete load of crap.
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#18
It gets into rhythm with my mind, and composers basically have to rely on ear and pure emotion to make it. It is harder than you think.
#19
I don't see why it's so great either. It depresses me, and it used to make me cry when I was little.
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#20
I used to agree with you until I went to Ibiza. You have to experience it in its natural habitat; in a crowded overpriced club with drunk assholes around you and women who are at least 50 percent plastic dancing on a stage.

After that I understand its catchiness.
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You have to experience it in its natural habitat; in a crowded overpriced club with drunk assholes around you and women who are at least 50 percent plastic dancing on a stage.


So everyone can go home with and bang a woman with breasts bigger than her brain a summed body figure higher than her IQ?

Hehe. Sorry, not trying to be mean, but I could not resist the opportunity.

As for me, I cannot understand the appeal of techno. Yes the composers may use a lot complex rhythms and theory to construct the music, but the song seem so simplistic.
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#22
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#24
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Okay pit, so I'm fairly open minded when it comes to music. I personally like Metal, Rock, Blues, Reggae and even classical, and I can understand why other people like other genres of music. The one thing that eludes me currently, though, is peoples adoration of techno. I cannot see any appeal behind this genre, which to me sounds like a computer being kicked down a set of stairs. This may just be me being cynical, but, in any case, please enlighten me Pit to why people can tolerate, nay, enjoy techno "music".

you've probably only heard crappy commercial stuff. it's like judging all rock music after listening to simple plan.
Quote by guitarsftw
it's 100% based on catchiness, there is nothing else to it. those that enjoy synth melodies and simplicity dig it. it is not really for the "raw", "traditional", "complex" music lovers.

absolute rubbish. you make it sound like all electronic music is the same, but there are as many or even more different genres in electronic music than 'rock' music, and they are all significantly different from each other.

for example, i'd say this is pretty "raw" and it's certainly not about pretty melodies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NOg812WUBM


if people are prepared to have a serious and mature discussion about this topic, and maybe open your minds a little, then i'll leave this thread open and maybe be able to give you all some insight into electronic music. whether this is successful or not is up to you.

oh yeah, something else i wanted to address:

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I am going to assume because of the pure ignorance in this thread that you guys are lumping all electronic dance music in the "techno" genre. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Techno does indeed suck. That Tiesto, Paul Van Dyk stuff is pretty terrible.

tiesto and pvd are trance artists, not techno.
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#25
well, coming from someone that has produced electronic music (assuming that when you say techno you mean all genres of electronica), id like to throw in my 2 cents.

ive made innumerable amounts of rock songs, classic rock, metal, grindcore, riffs, solos, breakdowns, tons of stuff.

ive also made a ton of electronic music, spanning multiple genres, far too many to name, and i must say:

electronic music is a thousand times more complex. i mean, there are certainly very complex and intelligent metal songs (tool, meshuggah, liquid tension experiment) but i seem to find that there are more subtle things in electronic music that take a while to pick up on.

but, its really unfair to be generalizing all of metal and all of electronica as i just have, so you can kind of ignore what i said if you want. back to the question at hand, people like electronica for the same reasons you like metal. it sounds nice.
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#26
ITT: we can't tell between techno and EDM

Just FYI, techno is usually not on TV or in clubs. You are probably thinking of drum and bass or house. Consult Ishkur's Guide and get back to me.
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#30
Some electronic music is brilliant. Stuff from Vangelis (Blade Runner soundtrack = beauty) and Aphex Twin are my favourites, although I'm not too well versed in the genre.
#32
You may not like it because you grew up with music made most entirely with natural instruments, and can't accept anything different. Or it may be that the techno you've heard doesn't meet your taste or technical standards. If it is the latter you should dig up lots because electronic music have loads of good stuff.
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#33
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it's 100% based on catchiness, there is nothing else to it. those that enjoy synth melodies and simplicity dig it. it is not really for the "raw", "traditional", "complex" music lovers.





How ironic considering the vast majority rock and metal are based around the same riffs played over and over again as the underlying melody
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How ironic considering the vast majority rock and metal are based around the same riffs played over and over again as the underlying melody


Yeah, genres aren't either complex or simple.

You'll find complex and simple music in every genre, I thought that was obvious......perhaps not.
#35
Firstly, not all electronic music is techno. Secondly, be open minded and search around for the style that suits you. Electronic music is a very wide genre.

For me, I listen to ambient house and progressive house. It chills me out and creates an atmosphere that I love, also makes me want to go to europe for some reason

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How can you not love that?

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#36
Ok firstly, define what you mean by techno...trance? hardstyle? what? Before I began listening to it, I just called it all "techno" but yeah...vastly different.

Secondly, I'll assume you are talking about trance and hardstyle, and I enjoy them because it's like an instrumental piece...yet with synth most of the time, it has some nice melodies and "riffs" if you will. Listen to some Presets (probably what you called techno) and some Digitalism (also techno) and then maybe some more hardstyle/trance i.e DJ Tiesto and you'll get what I mean by good melodies.

edit: Also good for dancing too...can't exactly dance to rock...
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#37
i think its the feeling of being hypnotised and moved by the beat and music. and the complexity
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Yeah, genres aren't either complex or simple.

You'll find complex and simple music in every genre, I thought that was obvious......perhaps not.



I merely pointed out that Rock and metal aren't any more complex than techno.
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it's 100% based on catchiness, there is nothing else to it. those that enjoy synth melodies and simplicity dig it. it is not really for the "raw", "traditional", "complex" music lovers.

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I merely pointed out that Rock and metal aren't any more complex than techno.


Yeah, I was agreeing with you, it was aimed at someone who posted earlier.