#1
Hey, so I'm on the market for a looper, and I mainly use BOSS pedals. Right now, I'm torn between the RC-2 and the RC-20XL.
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/...-Box?sku=487040
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/...tion?sku=151352

The second has two seperate pedals (Note: Still don't understand why, exactly), but which is better all-around for how much I pay? Apparently they both record up to 16 mins, and I don't see myself ever looping 11 seperate tracks over each other, but I do like to change what I looped a little, as in undoing etc.

Anyone have either of these, have an opinion or anything?

I play mainly metal (deathcore, metalcore, death metal, heavy stuff, and some thrash), and was looking into one of these to just keep lines going, to maintain probably a 4-minute song. Max, I'd want to be able to play "Orion" by Metallica with loops. I play through a Peavey JSX head (amazing, by the way), Egnater cab and an ESP LTD EX-400.
Speaking of which, I was looking into getting the ESP LTD EX-401DX (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/ESP-LTD-EX401DX-Floyd-Rose-Electric-Guitar?sku=520113), 'cause I was also looking into getting a trem and the flame transparent finish is absolutely smexy. I make usually $120 a week, sometimes $180 if I want to bad. I have $200 right now. Willing to buy the pedals off of eBay, for the record.
Which do you think is more enjoyable/important, trem bar or a loop pedal?

Thanks.
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#2
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Hey, so I'm on the market for a looper, and I mainly use BOSS pedals. Right now, I'm torn between the RC-2 and the RC-20XL.
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/...-Box?sku=487040
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/...tion?sku=151352

The second has two seperate pedals (Note: Still don't understand why, exactly), but which is better all-around for how much I pay? Apparently they both record up to 16 mins, and I don't see myself ever looping 11 seperate tracks over each other, but I do like to change what I looped a little, as in undoing etc.

Anyone have either of these, have an opinion or anything?

I play mainly metal (deathcore, metalcore, death metal, heavy stuff, and some thrash), and was looking into one of these to just keep lines going, to maintain probably a 4-minute song. Max, I'd want to be able to play "Orion" by Metallica with loops. I play through a Peavey JSX head (amazing, by the way), Egnater cab and an ESP LTD EX-400.
Speaking of which, I was looking into getting the ESP LTD EX-401DX (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/ESP-LTD-EX401DX-Floyd-Rose-Electric-Guitar?sku=520113), 'cause I was also looking into getting a trem and the flame transparent finish is absolutely smexy. I make usually $120 a week, sometimes $180 if I want to bad. I have $200 right now. Willing to buy the pedals off of eBay, for the record.
Which do you think is more enjoyable/important, trem bar or a loop pedal?

Thanks.
\m/


Ok, a few things here. First off, the 11 tracks are like 11 save locations, they don't play over each other, this is how you store a track, and come back to it later. So if you only use one track, you can do unlimited overdubbing until the whole 16 mins is taken up. Second the other footswitch on the 20XL is to start/stop and change tracks. The RC-2 you have to stomp twice to stop, and use a knob to change tracks. So basically, if you wanna jam by yourself and just kind of mess around with it, get the RC-2. If you want to use it to gig, and play with a full band, I would definitely get the 20. Hope this helps.

BTW I have an RC-2 and I love it. I have little one man jam sessions all the time.
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#3
Thanks a mill for the opinion, man. RC-2 is lookin' good. Don't need to save tracks, really, can just play them, not too much of a hassle.

Any opinion on the loop vs 401DX thing, though? Still wondering if I should spend what I have on a loop or if I should keep saving for a few weeks more to get that.
#5
I'd say looper. I improved so much after getting it. My lead work is seriously 10 times better now. A guitar won't do that for you.
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Unless its electronic drums.

BURN THE WITCH!!!!!
#7
You can plug up to 2 single FS-5U foot switches, or up to 2 FS-6 (double) foot switches into the RC-2 (and the RC-20) to control start/stop, temp, rec, etc.

Look into the Digitech Jamman as well if you decide to get the RC-20. It's more expensive, but it has a much longer record time, 99 save slots and USB connectivity.

If you want to do a one-man-band thing, get the Jamman.

If you just need something to riff over, or just use for solos and such, then the RC-2 is all you need. Later, add a couple of FS-5's or a single FS-6, and you are set.
Last edited by 667 at Jul 16, 2009,