#1
Ok so i recently got an '02 gibson les paul standard with the regular gibson 'deluxe' tuners, but they have a tendency to not stay in tune.

they use the press-fit brushings, now im thinking of replacing them with minimal mods (ei- not removing the brushings) for the new tonepros/kluson press fit brushing model tuners.

question: any experience with those? will they stay well in tune?
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#2
Well can't say I've had experience with those tuners...

But I find that it's best just to pay $50 and get it setup - especially with such a nice gibson

If that doesn't work - then replace the tuners
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#3
The tuners on my standard suck too. Sperzial (if thats how you spell it) and Grover both make replacement tuners that have great reviews.
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#4
Those Gibson deluxe tuners are the bane of my existence. You will find yourself a lot happier with your guitar once you rid yourself of those things.
#5
Are there any drop in replacements that will not make me strangle myself with the g-string?
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#6
get some gotoh tuners, i`ve got stock grover tuners on my `99 LP and never have tuning issues.
Last edited by ibanezgod1973 at Jul 17, 2009,
#7
Most tuning problems come from the owner simply not restringing the guitar correctly or not having the guitar set up well. I've used £60 plywood Strat copies that even when using their crappy vibratos, would hold tune so long as they had been set up and restrung correctly. There's really no reason why a Gibson LP Standard (or even an Epiphone LP Standard or LTD EC 401 or anything else like that) should have tuning problems, bar human error.
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#9
Quote by MrFlibble
Most tuning problems come from the owner simply not restringing the guitar correctly or not having the guitar set up well. I've used £60 plywood Strat copies that even when using their crappy vibratos, would hold tune so long as they had been set up and restrung correctly. There's really no reason why a Gibson LP Standard (or even an Epiphone LP Standard or LTD EC 401 or anything else like that) should have tuning problems, bar human error.

+1, and if you suck at changing strings like I do, go for locking tuners.
#10
I change my Flying V strings correctly ever since I got it and I'm not a fan of the Gibson Deluxe tuners either. I'm pretty sure Grover tuners drop right in no problem... check out ZakkWyldeFan79's profile to see the V he installed Grovers on
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