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#1
hey Ug
me and my friend wanna start a band together, but theres a problem cos were both lead guitarists, and there are so few bands (at least that i know) that they r co lead guitarists, so if anyone could tell me how to make that work that would be great
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#2
well, it'd be good to have some kind of rhythym, get a bassist to? Or swap songs between lead and rhythym between the 2. I dunno bout Co-songs though.
#3
there's a reason there's few bands with 2 leads, and that's because it's really hard to fit in enough work for 2 leads. Best way to make it work is to swap around on lead and rythm for what you play.
#4
I always see it as if it works for The Eagles it can work for anyone. But if it's a case of having 2 leads OR a lead and a rhythm then go for lead and rhythm. Who's to say you can't both switch between rhythm and lead in different songs, though?
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#5
Duelling leads, harmonized leads, sometimes one of you or both might need to suck it up and play rhythm. Make rhythm more interesting by using counterpoint or harmony or both with it as well.
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#6
do what i did, split with the drummer and start your own band
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#7
thats wat weve been doing so far, but neither of us really like rhythm playing, i only like it if its like rythm in children of bodom, which is some kick ass rhythm

so wat u guys are sayin is that we should alternate between lead and rhythm for different songs? or try to write kickass rhythm
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#9
Yeah.
Although, writing kickass rhythm should be obvious, why would you choose to write lame rhythm?
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#10
i play mostly rhythm anyway cuz my soloing skills are lacking, so i just spice up my rhythm parts. no really chordy stuff, lots of arpeggio and scale pieces, alternate picking, stuff like that
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#11
ok thanks guys
i think ill just stick to writing really good rhythm and harmonizing the leads
and sometimes wen i dont harmonize the leads well switch between rhythm and leads

and cheez, could u give some advice on how to write rhythm using scales and arpeggios instead of just chords?
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hey Ug
me and my friend wanna start a band together, but theres a problem cos were both lead guitarists, and there are so few bands (at least that i know) that they r co lead guitarists, so if anyone could tell me how to make that work that would be great



wow dude it sounds like you have no idea what a band is. before starting a band you shouldn't have a problem about your roles.
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#13
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wow dude it sounds like you have no idea what a band is. before starting a band you shouldn't have a problem about your roles.

+1 If you're both up your own arses trying to play "teh epicz shredz" in a band situation you better think again before making a band. Rhythm is more important than lead, and is 90% of the songs we listen to.
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wow dude it sounds like you have no idea what a band is. before starting a band you shouldn't have a problem about your roles.

+1 If you're both up your own arses trying to play "teh epicz shredz" in a band situation you better think again before making a band. Rhythm is more important than lead, and is 90% of the songs we listen to.

EDIT: And you're probably not great anyways, if you call yourselves both lead guitarists, you don't know rhythm, and how to create good riffs, then personally I wouldn't call you a guitarist at all.
#15
Sure a song can have a great solo but if it has a **** riff then it's a **** song.
Just alternate it and on the solo's harmonize with eachother and such. Hell harmonize on the riff's aswell just don't have always the lead guitars shredding.
#16
You could both play different solos or just play harmonies. Or one of you play rhythm and the other plays lead but switch in different sections. I'm sure that would be cool on stage.

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#17
Well what my band does, is we have a bass player, drummer, and singer. Then, me and my friend each play solos to our strengths, and we have one guy who is a keyboard player, but in songs with no keyboard, he plays rhythm guitar. It works perfectly, and everyone is happy.
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#18
Thin Lizzy. Whitesnake.

There's no stopping one of you playing lead in one song, and the other one plays rhythm, and then swap about in another song. It's really not that hard, and you won't need another random pointless guitarist in there playing rhythm. Both of you will have a different sound and all that, and you'll each sound better on different songs and all that if ya get me.

Most of guitarring is basically rhythm anyways, and there's only a small bit of soloing, so you're gonna have to play rhythm whether you like it or not.
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#19
I play lead rhythm and lead backround vocals in my band.

Worrying about who is the lead is really just going to hamper a band. Everyone should contribute and service the song not their egos.
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#20
Look to four bands: Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Machine Head, Judas Priest.
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Seriously, every single person on U-G needs to check out their live DVD, Whitesnake: Live: In The Still Of The Night. It's an absolute masterclass on harmonising. Not just the two guitarists (Doug Aldrich and Reb Beach, both flawless lead guitarists in their own right spanning many genres and styles of playing), but also the bass, keyboards, drums and even the odd improvised vocals here and there too - it's six guys who are technically flawless working perfectly in sync and every single person should watch it. Even if you don't like Whitesnake's music, it is just such a great example of how a band should work together. None of that bull**** 'the lead singer's the only star', 'this guitarist is great and nobody gives a **** about the other one', no 'who cares about bass?' parts.
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#22
I think playing rhythm would be fun. Less spotlight on me, but I can make it fun.

During those chugging low powerchord breakdowns, I could really rock out and have fun. You know? (Referring to Milligram Smile by From Autumn to Ashes, which actually is the perfect song for this predicament)

Assuming you're in your teens, around now (unless your a prodigy) most people have some trouble really rocking out and playing some solos or lead lines at the same time.

I always think about gigging when I think about playing songs... so that's where I'm coming from with that.
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thats wat weve been doing so far, but neither of us really like rhythm playing, i only like it if its like rythm in children of bodom, which is some kick ass rhythm

so wat u guys are sayin is that we should alternate between lead and rhythm for different songs? or try to write kickass rhythm

Write kick ass rhythym
#24
Look at Racer X, two shred monsters who know when to lay off the leads and when to play the rhythm.

Look at Cacophony, another two shred monsters, lots of harmonizing and shred but they know when to play rhythm.
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#27
This is why people shouldn't consider themselves "lead" or "rhythm" players. Just be a friggin GUITARIST and do both. You both play rhythm anyways, not like one person solos through the entire song... Just switch it up man.
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#28
Keep your ego out of it and be modest, let whoever can do the solo better have it, and maybe if there's an easy lead somewhere in there, let the lesser person do it. Unless one of you is singing, you're both just guitarists and should think about how the song will sound when you play it in front of people; obviously you don't want to sound like sh*t on stage just because you wanted to say you had the BR00talZ SHR3DZ solo.
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#29
switch between lead and rhythm, maybe sometimes make the bassist play a rhythm while you guys do harmonies?
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#30
I went to a Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Whitesnake concert back in the 80s. That was epic. Anyways if you do it right it can be amazing.
#31
You could harmonize on leads. I'd suggest switching back and forth though (not necessarily in different songs but change throughout one song), or you could make a rule that whoever writes the lead gets to play the lead... That would lead to some competition and give an extra incentive to write (i.e. If I don't think of a lead the other guy will and I'll get stuck doing rhythm!)
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Look at Racer X, two shred monsters who know when to lay off the leads and when to play the rhythm.

Look at Cacophony, another two shred monsters, lots of harmonizing and shred but they know when to play rhythm.


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#33
Yea 2 leads means you have an excuse to add 2 solos to every song XD, as well as the ability to harmonize.

Suck it up and play the rhythm parts when you need too, its better than finding a third guitarist to play rhythm only.
#34
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This is why people shouldn't consider themselves "lead" or "rhythm" players. Just be a friggin GUITARIST and do both. You both play rhythm anyways, not like one person solos through the entire song... Just switch it up man.

Exactly, there's no reason why you have to label yourself. Just play and if it sounds good, great. If one thing sounds better if one person plays it, let him play it. If you write something, play it. If one person writes a better solo for a song, let him play it. It's not about rhythm and lead, it's about being a musician.
#35
And besides, if you focus on one too much you'll suck at the other.
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#36
There's a lot of stuff you can do. You can harmonize your riffs, or do what Cynic does and have two guitars playing 2 diffrent riffs that fit together.
#37
Man, rhythm playing in a song is more important than solos. There are plenty of good songs without solos, but none without good rhythm.
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#38
If you two try tandem solos and stuff like that it will work just fine (just look at Slayer)
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#39
Trivium, Unearth, Maiden harmonizes 3 leads sometimes.
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#40
Bottom line - if you can't play rhythm you're not really a guitarist.
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