#1
Ok i have a laney VC30 Tube amp and the drive channel turned up to maximum which sounds brilliant when playing power chords and rythym stuff nice and gritty, however when i play lead parts the high bent up notes are too "clean" and im wondering how i add "grit" to single notes


i assume its going to be an overdrive or a distortion pedal but turning up the amp is most likely not the solution a) for noise concerns b) single bent notes dont seem to break up enough im using a big muff and another fuzz pedal not at the same time and the big muff just sounds too like a swarm of bees and needs a massive volume boost/compressor to bring the fuzz to life? to get it to break up notes in a more garage rock way?

As an example john frusciantes live solo tone when he bends a note up and its far rougher and has more depth to it than most guitarists out there?

Any ideas recommendations for a transparent pedal that will either add grit or force my amp to overload naturally anyway?
#3
Get a boost pedal. It will overdrive your amp and give you more gain. You don't want a distortion or OD pedal. A boost should be fine.
#4
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oh sorry, i thought you said "making a break up note"
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oh sorry, i thought you said "making a break up note"



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#7
Overdrive or clean boost of some sort.
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#8
some overdrive from a pedal. MXR zakk wylde OD is pretty damn transparent and adds a load of gain. It'll be a perfect boost. I like the TS-9 better for now because it's better on the clean channel. It adds a bit of mids, which tightens up the tone. Maybe what you need.
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+1 on hitting the strings harder.
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#12
hitting the strings harder cant provide enough amplitude to overload the tubes unfortunately, but this clean boost, would i put it after my fuzz so the fuzz would then be twice as broken up thus taking away the "creaminess" of the fuzz as well as giving some distortion-ness?
#13
I agree with a boost, not an OD or Distortion. It'll push the tubes more causing more breakup. Without adding to much 'other' unwanted distortion.

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some overdrive from a pedal. MXR zakk wylde OD is pretty damn transparent and adds a load of gain. It'll be a perfect boost. I like the TS-9 better for now because it's better on the clean channel. It adds a bit of mids, which tightens up the tone. Maybe what you need.


The Wylde OD is far from transparent and not exactly reliable.
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+1 on hitting the strings harder.


Yeah, like if you're going in for a bend really pick your hand up a bit and smack the guitar like you were trying to cause it physical pain.
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hitting the strings harder cant provide enough amplitude to overload the tubes unfortunately, but this clean boost, would i put it after my fuzz so the fuzz would then be twice as broken up thus taking away the "creaminess" of the fuzz as well as giving some distortion-ness?

you can put the boost either before or after your fuzz. there is no right order for pedals, you do what sounds best to you. you can either make the fuzz louder with the boost second, or you can push the input of the fuzz with boost first. either works and both will sound different.

i would work on your picking dynamics though. you are probably mashing down on power chords and stuff, so picking a bit harder on single notes isnt doing enough. i would say turn the volume on the amp up a touch and then lay back on your rhythm stuff. then pick harder for the single notes so things even out a bit. if that really isnt working for you, then try the clean boost or overdrive (drive low, level up).
#17
Clean boost will add "crunch" by overloading the amp without adding /too much gain then? This is my main problem as i already have a big muff AND a boost drive fuzz which give me plenty of gain but can get a bit too "smooth" for the kind of garage rock sound im looking for when going through a strats neck pickup.