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Is it possiable to get flat notes harmony. Ofcourse u can get regular harmony but i was wondering if u can get flat note harmony. ANd if u can how do u do it. Like instead of harmonrizing B which is G i think how do u harmonize b flat. My guess would be a flat? i dont know. And i know sinster shawdow already created a tab on regular harmony. But this is differnt
#2
it depends what exactly youre trying to achieve. different intervals are for different harmonies, and depending on the piece they cna be used to achieve different tones.
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I guratte thiers a pattern to achieve through for flat notes harmony. U no any u can explain?
#4
Harmony with notes that have sharps or flats works exactly the same way as harmony with notes that don't have sharps or flats, if that's what your asking. I don't see why it would be any different, as every major scale except one uses at least one sharp or flat.
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#8
Harmonise the Cb major scale. Theres your harmony made of entirely flat notes.

Harmony can be made up of any kind of note names (even double sharps).
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You could start by learning how to spell harmony.
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What's not to get? Harmonizing is about intervals. If you're harmonizing in fifths, then the note will be a fifth above what you're harmonizing with. It's not rocket science. I suggest you read The Crusade articles in the columns section of this site.
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Oviously. I know what harmony is. I just dont understand flat note harmony. Fith note to Gb is? Gb Ab Bb. Bb? Thride note. Or Gb Ab Bb C Db Eb. Eb as the fith? or do u count whthe regular notes as well? idk.
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Oviously. I know what harmony is.
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Oviously. I know what harmony is. I just dont understand flat note harmony. Fith note to Gb is? Gb Ab Bb. Bb? Thride note. Or Gb Ab Bb C Db Eb. Eb as the fith? or do u count whthe regular notes as well? idk.
What are you talking about? Flat notes are the same as regular notes. A fifth is seven semitones.
The fifth from Gb is Db. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about

Observe:
Gb, G, Ab, A, Bb, B, C, Db

Read these -> http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/search.php?s=The+crusade&w=columns
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TS: You don't understand, though. You need to understand INTERVALS. A fifth up from G is D. A fifth up from Gb is Db. But there's nothing special about flats. There isn't something called "flat note harmony". It's all the same. Harmonizing with notes that have accidentals is the same as harmonizing with other notes. I don't think you understand intervals OR harmony, and if you do, you're not showing it very well. You can't harmonize a lot of things without running into one or two flats in the first place.
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TS: You don't understand, though. You need to understand INTERVALS. A fifth up from G is D. A fifth up from Gb is Db. But there's nothing special about flats. There isn't something called "flat note harmony". It's all the same. Harmonizing with notes that have accidentals is the same as harmonizing with other notes. I don't think you understand intervals OR harmony, and if you do, you're not showing it very well. You can't harmonize a lot of things without running into one or two flats in the first place.

what i dont get is this . alright say u got a gb like my other examples is the harmony to the interfal just F ?
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what i dont get is this . alright say u got a gb like my other examples is the harmony to the interfal just F ?
TS what are you on about? I'll try and explain -

There are 12 notes in the western chromatic scale -
A, A#/Bb, B, C, C#/Db, D, D#/Eb, E, F, F#/Gb, G, G#/Ab

An interval is the difference between two notes either harmonic or melodic. Flats and sharps are notes like any other. You treat them just like non sharps/flats

You can use any intervals you want to harmonise a phrase. Minor seconds. Major seconds, Major thirds, Minor thirds so you'll have to be a bit more specific about what kind of harmony you want

The difference between a Gb and an F is a minor second or major seventh dending on wether the F is above or below the Gb. Certainly not a harmony I would use

Again read the crusade columns

And watch these videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OXv69rcko0&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb6Wek3CrhA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7P4aC3ZGcg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5cbGjcTdvw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHokfdEUEHw&feature=related


What I've written is kinda all over the place but so are your thoughts

TS might I reccomend you get a guitar teacher? Having someone explain things to you in person is I find much more effective than having random strangers explain it to you over the internet
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#18
Harmonizing in 5th
If you have a G it is a D
Gb is a Db

You are flatting the root of your chord to you just flat the fifth that you would use to harmonize with the G. And you aren't supposed to harmonize an entire melody in all fifths, btw... parallel fifths is a no, no.
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And you aren't supposed to harmonize an entire melody in all fifths, btw... parallel fifths is a no, no.
That's the recieved wisdom in the classical world but it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it
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Oviously. I know what harmony is. I just dont understand flat note harmony. Fith note to Gb is? Gb Ab Bb. Bb? Thride note. Or Gb Ab Bb C Db Eb. Eb as the fith? or do u count whthe regular notes as well? idk.

You don't even appear to know what English is.
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#21
well you can i guess but it would be very boring and no one would want to listen to it.
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well you can i guess but it would be very boring and no one would want to listen to it.
That's a pretty bold claim

If there are people that can appreciate arto lindsay's guitar work there are people that will enjoy a melody harmonised in 5ths
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#23
well it sounds empty is all i'm saying. and it will be more interesting if there are other intervals. kinda how it's more interesting to play non-power chords all the time on the guitar.
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#24
Does this guy mean a scale degree which is flatted or just any flat note in general?
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