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~Max~
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Why do you all like terrible bands like botch and converge? Seriously PTH, Parkway Drive, Have Heart, BTBAM; there's so many better bands, why keep suggesting these horrible bands?

Am I not seeing something?
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Terrible and Converge and Botch should never be used in the same sentence.
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two words.


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You are aware that Converge and Botch are pioneers of the metalcore genre right? PTH and BTBAM are awesome (and my top two favorite bands) but Converge and Botch have both heavily influenced the genre.
Why do you hate them? (I think I can already guess why Converge)
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#10
Quote by ~Max~
Why do you all like terrible bands like botch and converge? Seriously PTH, Parkway Drive, Have Heart, BTBAM; there's so many better bands, why keep suggesting these horrible bands?

Am I not seeing something?
Then why do you like the bands that we don't?
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Quote by ~Max~
Why do you all like terrible bands like botch and converge? Seriously PTH, Parkway Drive, Have Heart, BTBAM; there's so many better bands, why keep suggesting these horrible bands?

Am I not seeing something?



just curious buddy. what music to you like, that is to say what bands did u come to the hardcore forum to talk about?
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Quote by ~Max~
Why do you all like terrible bands like botch and converge? Seriously PTH, Parkway Drive, Have Heart, BTBAM; there's so many better bands, why keep suggesting these horrible bands?

Am I not seeing something?

You insult Converge and praise Parkway Drive?

Seriously?
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~Max~
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#17
lol, srry guys it was really late at night when I posted this so I wasn't really thinking. To be honest though I still don't really like botch and converge, though I wouldn't have made a thread about it.

I'm not sure why really there music just seems very convuluted, lacking melody, lacking awesome, I also really,really don't like the vocal's in converge (shudder). This forum seems to be bias against metalcore so that would explain why some people don't like what I've listed.

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just curious buddy. what music to you like, that is to say what bands did u come to the hardcore forum to talk about?


I was under the impression the bands I listed are in the hardcore forum and are probably in the largest threads, so I really don't get what you mean.
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It's more hardcore to like bands that have smaller threads. When a thread gets over 4,000 posts, unless it's BTBAM, they automatically suck.
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~Max~
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Lol, yeh I noticed that. I don't really understand why you have to like the obscure bands to seem like you know heaps. But then again I'm more metal, so I'll probably never get it
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#20
Quote by ~Max~
lol, srry guys it was really late at night when I posted this so I wasn't really thinking. To be honest though I still don't really like botch and converge, though I wouldn't have made a thread about it.

I'm not sure why really there music just seems very convuluted, lacking melody, lacking awesome, I also really,really don't like the vocal's in converge (shudder). This forum seems to be bias against metalcore so that would explain why some people don't like what I've listed.


I was under the impression the bands I listed are in the hardcore forum and are probably in the largest threads, so I really don't get what you mean.


you have no idea what you are talking about.
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#21
converge does not lack awesome and neither does botch.


you however do
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#22
Quote by ~Max~
Why do you all like terrible bands like botch and converge? Seriously PTH, Parkway Drive, Have Heart, BTBAM; there's so many better bands, why keep suggesting these horrible bands?

Am I not seeing something?


wut
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#23
Those four would not sound the way they do if there was no botch or converge. But on a more understanding note it takes a while to really appreciate bands like converge, isis, neurosis (uh im not going to start listing em all) if you've come into liking hardcore, metal or what ever by listening to atreyu, parkway drive or something more accessible
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#24
People ride Botch's nuts wayyyyyyyyy too much. Band is pretty mediocre, imo. Seems like a lot of kids on here ride the bandwagon to avoid being ridiculed, like the OP in this thread.

Converge is great though. Every album is great in its own way.

OP is an idiot, but even idiots have opinions. Not justifying the thread, because it's really pretty pointless. Just sayin'
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#25
Ok, lol you guys are waaaaaaayyy to sensitive. I listened to some more and have concluded that botch is average/nothing special and converge are truly terrible.

Also I'm pretty sure saying I'm an idiot is pretty immature but whatever. I think I'll just let this thread die, cause I doubt I'll change my mind now.
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Ok, lol you guys are waaaaaaayyy to sensitive. I listened to some more and have concluded that botch is average/nothing special and converge are truly terrible.

Stop listening to music/posting here.
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#27
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Stop listening to music/posting here.


Why do you say that?
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#28
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Why do you say that?

People on this forum are clearly quite into Converge; you're just trying to get a rise out of them by saying "Converge is terrible." I'm not a ****ing infant, so I can get over someone knocking a band I enjoy, but an argument like this isn't going to go anywhere and it won't even end up being entertaining.
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#29
That is partly true, but still I kinda found it pretty funny imo. I lol'd hard where someone said converge was better than Parkway.
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I consider Parkway Drive to be a generic band cashing in on the popularity of "metalcore" at the moment, whereas Converge has been around since the 90's and the members all contribute hugely to the hardcore scene on a global scale (whether it be through running labels, sound engineering, touring heavily, etc.).

I suppose this is more of a comment on the bands integrity. When it comes to their music, I consider Jane Doe to be their best.
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#31
Quote by ~Max~
That is partly true, but still I kinda found it pretty funny imo. I lol'd hard where someone said converge was better than Parkway.

I'm laughing pretty hard at you suggesting they're not.
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Indeed. I'll put it simply, OP is either a fag who has utterly shit taste in music and is genuinely retarded or a relatively succesfull troll. Either way, the guy's a dipshit and there is nothing to be gained from viewing this thread. Let's move on and let this thread sink to the deep, dark depths of obscurity along with the other metalcore "flamebait" threads where it belongs.
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#34
Quote by ~Max~
That is partly true, but still I kinda found it pretty funny imo. I lol'd hard where someone said converge was better than Parkway.


people will think your retarded when they read that. i love converge, but parkway is my favourite band.
for me it took me a while to like converge. i started to take a liking to them when my older brother came up to visit and was just pumping converge 24/7
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#35
Hmm, you guys do realise that 99% of the world likely agree with me. I don't mind if you want to keep calling me an idiot though, I understand that everyone is different.

Also Parkway do help hardcore considerably seeing as they often tour with hardcore bands and introduce heaps of people to hardcore.

In Conslusion:

Parkway Drive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Converge
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#36
^^^Parkway Drive help the hardcore scene by touring? Really?

Jacob Bannon from Converge owns Deathwish Records, a label for up and coming hardcore bands and he does album artwork for some bands on the side (Shadows are Security by As I Lay Dying and Witness by Modern Life is War are just a few examples), not to mention he's an amazing lyricist. Two former members of the band even went on to form Bane. Converge has released plenty of amazing records one of which being Jane Doe which has got to be one of the most influential records in the genre. Converge has done more to help the hardcore scene than Parkway Drive will probably ever do.
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#37
Dude I wasn't comparing them I was just saying Parkway has undeniably helped the hardcore scene. Also converge don't have any amazing records.
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Indeed. I'll put it simply, OP is either a fag who has utterly shit taste in music and is genuinely retarded or a relatively succesfull troll. Either way, the guy's a dipshit and there is nothing to be gained from viewing this thread. Let's move on and let this thread sink to the deep, dark depths of obscurity along with the other metalcore "flamebait" threads where it belongs.


If only, if only...
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Quote by ~Max~
Hmm, you guys do realise that 99% of the world likely agree with me. I don't mind if you want to keep calling me an idiot though, I understand that everyone is different.

Also Parkway do help hardcore considerably seeing as they often tour with hardcore bands and introduce heaps of people to hardcore.

In Conslusion:

Parkway Drive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Converge



The vast majority of the world wouldn't have heard of either bands anyway. Even so, it doesn't mean that they're right.
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#40
As I stated earier, this guy is probably a troll. The fact that this thread has gone to 2 pages already proves how easily the majority of the people here get worked up. Stop feeding the fucking troll already.

Where's a mod when you need one?