#1


I know absolutely nothing about pickups.

Still compare to other guitars, I feel that mine have less tone. That's how I would describe it.

I play alternative rock, punk-rock/pop and blues.

I would like to have a "dookie" Green Day sound on the first position.
John Mayer sound on the fourth and fifth position.
I don't really know what the third position would be useful for, maybe red hot chili peppers.

What should I know ?
#2
What kind of pickups would you like?? Passive or Active?

If you visit the sites for EMG, Seymour Duncan, or Dimarzio, they will give you recommendations for what you're looking for. Dimarzio goes so far as to recommend you pickups based on your guitars components.
#3
First and foremost, your pickups do NOT control your sound, your amp does. That controls the majority of your tone and sound.
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#4
If you want to change the pickups on your guitar you can go to the dimarzio or seymour duncan websites and it'll show you how each of their pickups are eq'ed. Another good way to hear different pickups is to search for them on youtube.
#5
Passive, sorry for not mentioning

I would assume that for example, Seymour Duncan pickups are higher quality than Fender's, so that bands would choose those

I know that the John Mayer Signature Stratocaster has the middle scooped, what ever that means, what should I be looking for ?
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#6
dookie was a duncan JB, i think. but you should be able to get close with most reasonably high-output alnico V bridge humbuckers. you have a load of options.

for mayer, i'd just use vintage-voiced strat single coils. You have a load of options.

what's your budget and what country are you in?

an overdrive or boost pedal probably wouldn't hurt to use with your amp, too.
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#7
I live in Canada, Quebec.

So I can buy from :

http://www.axemusic.com/
http://www.mccshoponline.com/
http://www.stevesmusic.com/
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/

At my local music store I could get 300.00 $ for my current guitar. The prices are about 50.00 $ higher than on www.axemusic.com, if it's cheaper to switch to a stratocaster.

For the budget, as low as possible since I will have to pay for someone to install them for me.

I don't mind only changing neck and middle at first since the tone I really want is John Mayer's.

Since I have a mapple neck and he almost only uses rosewood, should I switch to a standard stratocaster ?
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#8
personally, i'd stick with what you have. if you want dookie tones too you're going to want a bridge humbucker.

there is a difference between maple and rosewood, but it's subtle. Both still sound like strats, kind of thing. the main problem is likely to be either your amp or the pickups, or maybe that godin just doesn't sound too much like a strat (i haven't tried that exact model). But assuming the godin's not at fault, as i said, probably amp or pickups.

First thing first, see if you can bring your guitar to a local shop (or if the shop has your guitar in stock, that's easier) and try it through a more fendery-style of amp to see how you like the tone. if that fixes it, your amp's at fault. (try some strats too.)

if not, it might be the pickups.
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#9
Well I specially chose the amp for the sound I want with a stratocaster (maple) at the store, so it's not the amp.

I bought the Godin because they are made in Quebec, near from where I live and for the price I got an American made guitar.

I've read reviews and almost everyone seems to agree that the pickups are not great.

I would love to buy vintage pickups. I think that Fender Texas sounds decent enought but I can only find them in SSS configuration.

Any help ?
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#10
oh ok, if you already know it's not the amp, then that's fair enough.

i can't remember if i've actually tried texas specials, but I don't think they're what you want. I hope I'm right in thinking that they're aimed at an SRV-type tone, which is warmer, fatter, and hotter than a more vintage-strat sound- more mids and more output, in other words, while you want a more scooped-mid, more vintage-sounding john mayer type of tone. I'd have thought you'd want vintage-output pickups for that.

I'm not *that* familiar with john mayer- do you have any links to clips of the kind of tone he uses that you want to be able to get close to, on e.g. Youtube?
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#11
Yeah you are right ! I listen to clips more carefully and Texas Specials are not for me.

The Seymour Duncan SSH-L1 got my attention. HERE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mRPwU9xMJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOwt83O0Sk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5imPpWkZo8&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQSGa8nZs8g&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lw5aA7XUFw&feature=related

THANKS FOR YOU HELP

edit: I've also found this one HERE
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#12
the ssl1 would probably work. what's your fingerboard radius? if it's pretty flat you'd want the one with flat polepieces, not the staggered version.

I'm not too sure with dimarzio, i haven't tried too many of their single coils, i've liked the virtual vintage ones the best, but being noiseless you might be better with true single coils for the tones you're after.

you could also look at more boutique companies, but their products may be over budget...

EDIT: some of those tones in the links you posted actually were quite SRV, but i reckon you could get that with a tubescreamer-style pedal with more vintage-voiced pickups.

Wouldn't hurt to try as many guitars as you can with known duncan pickups etc.
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