#1
My Epiphone G-400 SG has pretty lifeless clean tones and I'd like to fix that. What are some pickups I could put in that would make clean tones more vibrant without sacrificing any mid-high-gain crunch/lead tones? Coil splits definitely are an option.
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#4
Budget... Probably about 200.

Also, if I've never installed pickups before and don't know anything about wiring anything like that, is it a bad idea to install them myself?
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#5
Muahahaha, $2000? I hope you mean $200.

Also, unless you have a good amp, new pups are useless.
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#6
I have a Super Champ XD. I've played a Strat and a Jazzmaster through one and got much better tones when it comes to clean and low-gain tones. With my SG as it is now, a lot of the bluesy, low to mid gain voicings sound crappy and phoned-in.

Also, I'm definitely going to upgrade the amp somewhere down the line. I want to keep the SG to screw around with doing mods and stuff to it.
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#7
The P-Rails certainly seem like a novel concept. Any opinions on those?
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#9
Well you know i'm not a fan of EMG's much but in SG's they are as crunchy as ****!
81/85 or 81/60???
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#10
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Well you know i'm not a fan of EMG's much but in SG's they are as crunchy as ****!
81/85 or 81/60???

He said he wanted to fix the lifeless cleans, not make it worse.
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Well you know i'm not a fan of EMG's much but in SG's they are as crunchy as ****!
81/85 or 81/60???


It seems no matter what, someone always suggests emgs.

You'd be better of saving up for a strat if you want a good blues tone.
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#12
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Get some Seymour Duncan H-90's into your SG and turn it into a Townshend machine...

I assume you mean P-90s? According to Google H-90s do exist, but I can't find any for sale anywhere.
I'm leaning towards a pair of P-Rails (humbucker consisting of one rail single coil and a P-90 type pickup) with Triple Shots to split them.
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#14
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I assume you mean P-90s? According to Google H-90s do exist, but I can't find any for sale anywhere.
I'm leaning towards a pair of P-Rails (humbucker consisting of one rail single coil and a P-90 type pickup) with Triple Shots to split them.


http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/specialized/progressive/sph901_phat_cat/

good humbucker sized p-90

a cheaper alternative would be
http://store.guitarfetish.com/gfsme90altrp.html
or
http://store.guitarfetish.com/dr90husip90c.html
#15
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I have a Super Champ XD. I've played a Strat and a Jazzmaster through one and got much better tones when it comes to clean and low-gain tones. With my SG as it is now, a lot of the bluesy, low to mid gain voicings sound crappy and phoned-in.
Sounds to me like you need a strat. Big difference between HBrs and SCs. You should take that $200 and find a MIM Strat off Craigslist.
#16
^ No he should just get a versatile Humbucker instead of buying a whole new guitar. He said he wanted a Humbucker that could do good cleans while still retaining Mid-Hi gain, the Single Coils on a strat wont do that.
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#17
He said he liked the sound of a strat though the amp. You're not going to change pups on the SG and get the sound he liked from the strat. Why throw the dice on random pup recommendations when you already know what you like?
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He said he liked the sound of a strat though the amp. You're not going to change pups on the SG and get the sound he liked from the strat. Why throw the dice on random pup recommendations when you already know what you like?

That's a good point. I've been looking at a G&L Legacy (a strat copy) which may be what I want. The only thing is that's an even bigger investment than a couple pickups.
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#20
you know if the pickups are any decent you could just swap the magnets like i did, it will cost you like 20$ bux like alnico 5 on neck and 8 bridge
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That's a good point. I've been looking at a G&L Legacy (a strat copy) which may be what I want. The only thing is that's an even bigger investment than a couple pickups.
True dat! I bought a G&L S-500 in a pawn shop in the 80's for $60 and didn't even know what I had. I didn't know how to play back then, gave up and stuck it in the closet for nearly 20 years until I finally learned to play. Fortunately I hung on to it because it's one of my favorite guitars.
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True dat! I bought a G&L S-500 in a pawn shop in the 80's for $60 and didn't even know what I had. I didn't know how to play back then, gave up and stuck it in the closet for nearly 20 years until I finally learned to play. Fortunately I hung on to it because it's one of my favorite guitars.

American or Tribute?

Anyway, I'd rather just have one guitar that can do it all pretty well than have two separate guitars to take to college/whatever.
How's this idea: P-Rails in the neck and some sort of high-gain pickup in the bridge?
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