#1
hey all,

im planning on doing a build in the next couple of weeks and would like a cheap go at it first, id like to build the neck and body so its a complete build, i want a matt black & Pinstripe finish so i dont need any figured tops but as its a first build and its 99% just for practice im wondering if i could make it out of pine?

my main reasoning for this is its readily available, cheap and relativly easy to work with, my main concern is would it be strong enough for a neck (and possibly fretboard) as i dont favour chunky necks (my custom is a wizard neck profile)

tonewood isnt my concern at the minuite (although ive heard pine aint that bad) its practice but i would also like to keep it and play it so i dont want it going out of tune every 10 mins or warping so its unplayable.

if its an plausable idea would i need anything special for finishing or would it be a simple sanding.

the the records im planning a RR style build but that may change as i play sat down most of the time

Cheers

Gary
#2
pine is a great wood for guitar building, well the body at least...

do NOT do a pine neck, its far too soft, but for a body, its a good tonewood.
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#3
DOn't make a pine neck, its pretty soft for a wood, but you'll be fine with a pine body, alot of tele's are made of pine

EDIT:AJK beat me to it
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#4
any cheapish woods you can reccomend for the neck then as i dont want to waste £50 on maple for me to **** it up and need to pay out another £50

i know this isnt a great way to build a guitar but i must stress its for practice.

if its maple/mahogany i may attempt a bolt on (was planning neck thru) and make another body for it in the future
#5
if you definately dont intend on playing it, then pine would be okay, or alternativly, get several pieces of pine and make a few practice necks berfore making one out of say maple.
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#6
^This.

you can always use these as practice like AJK said, and if its a bolt on, you could just replace it with a maple once you think youre good enough
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#7
i dont intend on playing on it as a first choice guitar but i dont see the point in building it if its not playable.

i could perhaps get some pine and practice getting the neck profile correct, a bit of router practice and make a decent mockup headstock

EDIT: is there many other woods apart from maple and mahogany that you can make necks out of or does this then increase cost a lot?
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#8
Just as these gents said. You can make a great body of pine, just know that it will be easy to dent. Pine is easy to work with and sounds good too.
Can you get oak cheaply where you live?
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Just as these gents said. You can make a great body of pine, just know that it will be easy to dent. Pine is easy to work with and sounds good too.
Can you get oak cheaply where you live?


im not too sure on oak, ive been working a lot recently so havent had chance to go to the timber supplier, i should get chance on wednesday and im going to ask about getting maple too, but im not sure if its the right kind of maple he will be able to get me, may have to get it online
#10
Pine is great for a body, (especially Tele's....DO IT!), but it's far too soft and brittle to withstand the tension that a neck goes through.

Try a maple neck, it's a good solid wood that is used in about 75% of guitar necks, and it's dense so if you use it correctly there is nearly no chance of it snapping.



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#11
cheers for all the advice guys, ive browsed the net and ive found maple roughcut necks for £27 so its not overly expensive with an ebony fretboard for £18, also alder aint too bad and it looks like i could actually get all needed wood for £100 so im planning on starting some orders next week, only thing i need now is a good RR template, ive got blanks but nothing with actual measurments on it.

Although would i be correct in saying a fender neck template will be the same scale as a jackson just a case of different headstock?
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cheers for all the advice guys, ive browsed the net and ive found maple roughcut necks for £27 so its not overly expensive with an ebony fretboard for £18, also alder aint too bad and it looks like i could actually get all needed wood for £100 so im planning on starting some orders next week, only thing i need now is a good RR template, ive got blanks but nothing with actual measurments on it.

Although would i be correct in saying a fender neck template will be the same scale as a jackson just a case of different headstock?


Where are you getting the fret board from?

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#13
oak is fine for necks. and cheap too. I went to a hardware and timber store yesterday and bought a board of oak for $20 which can get 4 necks out of it. I only plan on using it for practice builds, but if it plays and sounds well I might use it on better quality guitars.

Pine is great for bodies, Fender used it on their 1st model the broadcaster. Pine sounds similar to Alder and Basswood, it's just a whole lot softer so will need a thicker and harder finish than normal.
#14
Skeet: ive been looking at getting all my final woods from http://www.tonetechluthiersupplies.co.uk but there is normally a few bargins on ebay, i.e. when i do a practice build i think it will most likely be a cheap rosewood fretboard of ebay but i think ill go to a quality guarenteed place... can you supply them also? as for hardware i will be in touch once my builds get going, im buying it bit by bit on a payday by payday rota so this month will be the practice woods, a spoke shave and a couple of other bits that i dont have i.e. really big clamps


thats the info i was after cheers guitarcam, i get paid next week and i think ill be popping to a few suppliers and finding out the price of some oak and some pine, assuming the moisture isnt too high.

another bit of advice if you can please guys:
would i be ok getting a peice of 2x4 oak and making a one peice neck or would i be better getting a long peice of 1x2 and laminating the neck?
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Skeet: ive been looking at getting all my final woods from http://www.tonetechluthiersupplies.co.uk but there is normally a few bargins on ebay, i.e. when i do a practice build i think it will most likely be a cheap rosewood fretboard of ebay but i think ill go to a quality guarenteed place... can you supply them also? as for hardware i will be in touch once my builds get going, im buying it bit by bit on a payday by payday rota so this month will be the practice woods, a spoke shave and a couple of other bits that i dont have i.e. really big clamps


thats the info i was after cheers guitarcam, i get paid next week and i think ill be popping to a few suppliers and finding out the price of some oak and some pine, assuming the moisture isnt too high.

another bit of advice if you can please guys:
would i be ok getting a peice of 2x4 oak and making a one peice neck or would i be better getting a long peice of 1x2 and laminating the neck?


Tone Tech or David Dyke for pre cut stuff.

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