#1
Hi

So when I push down on the Tremolo bar on my MIM Fender Stratocaster (It has a 2-point bridge) one string (either the G or B string) goes out of tune, however I can simply retune the guitar by pulling up on the tremolo arm!

But I just want my guitar to stay in tune - how can I sort this out? I think the problwm may be at the nut, because when the guitar detunes I can here a quiet clicking.


So can anyone help me out here?

Thanks.
#2
Umm.........that's normal for a whammy bar to detune when it goes down lol. Do you even know how a tremolo works?

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Position I illustrates the normal position of an ideally tuned Floyd Rose bridge. The bridge (green) balances on a pivot point, being pulled counter-clockwise by the strings' (red) tension and clockwise by one or several (usually up to five) springs (light blue). Controlled by special tuning screws (sky blue), these two forces are balanced such that the bridge's surface is parallel to the guitar body (olive). The strings are locked tightly with a special mechanism at the nut (also green, as it is a part of the Floyd Rose bridge) as well as at the bridge, hence "double-locking".

Position II illustrates the position of the bridge when the tremolo arm is pushed down towards the guitar body. The bridge rotates around a pivot point counter-clockwise and the tension in each string decreases, lowering the pitch of each string. The sound of any notes being played becomes flat.

Position III illustrates the position of the bridge when the tremolo arm is pulled up away from the guitar body. The bridge rotates clockwise, tension in the strings increases, the pitch of the sound increases and so notes sound sharper than normal.


NOTE: You have a Fender Tremolo, so cross off Pos. III
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#3
wait, so when you push down your trem arm, only two strings go out of tune? that's impossible. unless you're saying that after using it, your strings are out of tune, which can be fixed simply by replacing strings.
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#4
I think you're probably right about the nut. Watch the strings carefully at the nut when you push down and see if those strings are moving about a bit. They could be getting caught or something.

Chaazums he clearly said he could pull up, it's a Fender 2 point trem, they're perfectly capable of floating. And it is not normal for 2 strings to go out of tune and then in tune when he pulls up.
#5
Probably the nut is binding or the strings are not wound nicely around the tuning pegs.
#6
It's been said before, but some graphite (such as ground up pencil lead) put into the slots in the nut will probably greatly help the problem.
#7
Quote by stujomo
Probably the nut is binding or the strings are not wound nicely around the tuning pegs.

+1
I had this problem and rewound the strings (the proper way) on the tuning pegs fixed it fine.

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#8
Quote by stujomo
Probably the nut is binding or the strings are not wound nicely around the tuning pegs.


This pretty much, just lube your nut and make sure your winding is solid and you should be good.
#9
As was said earlier. +1 on the colouring in the slots in your nut with a lead pencil, works wonders.
#10
Quote by David Collins
Though perhaps written a bit ambiguously, it seems clear the OP is indicating that when the trem is pushed down then allowed to return to neutral, two strings remain out of tune. They would be sharp, because they are getting hung up likely at the nut (unless you have really sloppy string winding at the tuners and are diving to spaghetti strings with the trem). When he pulls the trem back a bit, it's enough to slip the strings back over the friction at the nut and they return to neutral.

It's a common problem, and you just need to have your nut slots properly cut, or replace the nut if it's a really soft plastic. There are a number of nut lubes (I like the Rene Martinez/GHS stuff myself) that can help with this problem as well, but getting the nut set proper is still key.



This is what I meant, thanks.
#11
Quote by ChiliFan01
+1
I had this problem and rewound the strings (the proper way) on the tuning pegs fixed it fine.




Thanks, maybe I'll try this.