#1
hey ug
these days im getin more into the amp side of guitar
and i just wanted to know as the title says, the difference between british or american voiced amps
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#2
You know that's an interesting question, I want to find the answer myself. A friend of mine has a Vox which can be set on UK modern or Uk 80's and what not, along with the American voices, so I'll play aroudn with the settings and see what the difference is in tone. Someone else will haev to come up with a more "researched" answer I'd guess you say
#3
British amps, think the sound of a Vox or a Marshall.
American, think Fender on the low gain side, all the way up to Mesa Boogie or Diezel on the high gain side.
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#5
American Voiced amps typically have 6L6 or 6V6s and have the mids rolled of somewhat, they have more low end also that is looser. Examples include: Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Buddy Guy, and many others.


Brit Voiced amps, Breakup earlier and have VERY prominent mids (300-2k). They are usually a bit more "raunchy and are somewhat tighter in the low end depending on the amp. Examples include: Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, (Live) Joe Bonamassa, Slash


remember when I'm talking about these that I'm going by the typical Marshall Fender comparision. Mesas are american voiced and have an extremely tight low end while JCM2000's have a somewhat scooped mid
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i'd guess the american voiced amps have a more pronounced mid scoop and sound more bassy and high-gain, while the british voiced amps would be more crunchy and have more midrange ? just a guess though

british = marshall, american = mesa


the way this sounds is that british is more on the overdriven, guns n roses style
while american is more hardcore
and this was the kind of answer i was looking for, something that would say that this was tighter low end or watever, not that british think of vox or marshall etc
thx guys
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the way this sounds is that british is more on the overdriven, guns n roses style
while american is more hardcore
and this was the kind of answer i was looking for, something that would say that this was tighter low end or watever, not that british think of vox or marshall etc
thx guys



Not really. Brit voicing doesn't mean it's Crunchy it's just typical. Go look up the Splawn Nitro. one of the tightest most thumping low end's you will ever hear. then go look at a Fender Blues junior. it has a HUGE mid hump and a fairly tight low end for what it is.

so don't base ANY of your desicions on what we're saying here
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#9
British voicing vs. American voicing can really be blurred as well, especially when you start getting into early Marshall amps and early Fender amps. Most people would consider a Fender tweed an "American" amp, in fact, it IS the American classic for rock and blues. But at the same time, crank a Fender tweed and it sounds a lot like an early Marshall. A lot of things can contribute to the differences in tone between the two though, such as speakers. A vintage Fender used a 4x10 Jensen setup and the first Marshalls used a 4x12 Celestion cabinet which gives it more of a mid bark.

Its hard to generalize what exactly is British and what exactly is American, I guess the most common example is a Vox AC vs. a Fender BF. They differ a lot in their natural EQ, response, and most notably how they break up when they distort.

Dunno if that helps, it's hard to really say anything of value without making blanket statements about American amps vs. British amps.
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#10
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British amps, think the sound of a Vox or a Marshall.
American, think Fender on the low gain side, all the way up to Mesa Boogie or Diezel on the high gain side.


Diezel? I always thought that Diezel, Engl, H&K and the like were German voiced (tight and colder).
#11
I think of American voiced as being bass-y and slightly scooped mids. Also, American amps have brighter cleans.

I think of British voicing as being characterized by a roaring mid-range and punchier cleans.

Of course, Hiwatts have a very Fender characteristic about them and early Fenders (especially the Bassman) lent themselves to the development to early Marshalls.
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British amps, think the sound of a Vox or a Marshall.
American, think Fender on the low gain side, all the way up to Mesa Boogie or Diezel on the high gain side.

Diezel is a German toned amp (which is based around tighter low end and more crisp highs with a middle-ground between British and American midrange voicing).

For British tones: Think Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Jimi Hendrix.

For American tones: Think SRV and John Mayer.

British tones: More focused in raunchy high midrange bark.

American tones: Smoother sounding, scoopier midrange with glassy highs and warm low end.
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