#1
I've had an Epiphone G-400 for about 8 months now, and I can tell what kind of a tone I'm getting. It isn't one I particularly like, so I think it's time for a change.

I play Metal, Thrash to be specific but I still play blues, and some of Hendrix's stuff.
My Budget is 300$ right now.

and I've narrowed down 2 guitars, since I heard their brands make for good Metal playing Guitars.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ibanez-RG2EX1-Electric-Guitar-103382115-i1167867.gc

and

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Jackson-JS30RR-Rhoads-Electric-Guitar-520306-i1445400.gc

now I plan on keeping the SG for now, getting my parents to buy me a new one.
Then selling the SG and getting a Digitech RP350 Multi Effects Board I've been wanting.

I'm open to better suggestions within my budget and thanks.
#3
I'd have to say go to with Ibanez. I have an rg series one and it's really versatile and easy-to-play. =P
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#5
You don't want to buy a Digitech RP350. RP355 comes with the expansion pedal for other effects like whammy and wah.
#6
i think the Ibanez RG321 would be better for metal b/c of the mahogany body. Its pretty much the same as the RG2EX1, but with a different finish and wood. Personally, i think the RG321 looks better.
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#7
With your budget, Ibanez > Jackson
In almost all of their guitars.
But IMO, Jackson has better higher-end guitars.
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#8
Wow that RP355 looks nice
I'll keep my eye on it for now.

I've also looked into the Schecter Omen 6, it's really catching my attention.

and I have a Line 6 Spyder III Amp
it's not that good I know but I'll get a better one soon.


And I like the RG321's mahogany body it's a definite + for me.
#9
Get the Ibanez. Everyone knows they're great for metal, but they're also versatile, in my opinion.
#10
soooo how much for the sg haha
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#11
Well, I'm not sure.

I'm selling it later, once I get the newer guitar (Which seems like the Ibanez is winning lol)
but I'm thinking around 200$-250$

I honestly thought about keeping it, since it's my first guitar.
But I need some better gear, and I can't afford to carry around dead weight I won't use anymore.
#12
another advantage that the Ibanez has over the Jackson is the bolt-on design. I have a Jackson King V, and i hate its neck joint; it makes higher frets less accessible. The Ibanez has a smaller neck joint that makes it easier to play. Well at least that is my observation; i haven't gotten to play one, but i've been wanting to get on for a while.
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#13
Dude, keep the SG. You're looking for improvement in your tone with a Spider III by buying a new guitar that will probably be worse. Buy a new amp. Don't even get the Digitech.
#14
New amp first. Aside from that, I'd say save up more money. You're selling a $300 guitar and buying another $300 guitar. Doesn't make sense to me. Save up about twice that, then sell the SG, now you've got about $800-$900 you can spend on a really nice guitar, not just another starter-esque guitar you'll want to sell in another 8 months.
#15
Ok, then what Amp would you recommend?

I'll have to see if I can get a better amp also if I can sell the Amp I have.

And let's keep the Amp budget at around 100$ I mean I'm not using it for gigs or anything it's just practicing/hobby.
#16
Not sure if that was at me or the guy above me, but I don't play metal very often, so I wouldn't know what to tell you. $100 for a nice amp really won't cut it though. I'd say maybe look at a Valveking or a Mesa. Idk I'll let someone else give the amp rec's for metal stuff.
#17
Well, considering that amp makes up most of your tone, i suggest you save up more for it. Also, try to save up more for a guitar. Doesn't make sense to sell the guitar to get a similar priced one.
#18
I see, well I really wanted an Ibanez but I'll have to manage without it for now I guess.

Unless my parents want to gift it then heck why not?

Oh and you guys don't get it
I'm trying to get my parents to get me the Ibanez/Jackson
and then I'll sell my SG/Amp for some better gear.

I could raise my Amp budget to around 300$ if I can sell them both together as a package
Last edited by Kenji20022 at Jul 27, 2009,
#19
You can still have your Ibanez, just might be a while longer. If you do like I said and save some more money and sell that SG, and also the Line 6, you could have somewhere around $1k, which could easily be split up into buying both a guitar and amp. Dont forget to look used too, lots of great deals out there on Craigslist and eBay and the like.
#20
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-EM-2-Prophecy-Custom-FX-Electric-Guitar-with-Floyd-Rose-Tremolo-515613-i1398415.gc

or, for less money (and without a floyed)

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-EM-2-Prophecy-Custom-EX-Electric-Guitar-with-Stopbar-Tailpiece-515614-i1395591.gc

sell your guitar and buy that, AFTER the new amp, and if you like your guitar shape,

$650 metal machine
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-SG-Prophecy-Custom-EX-Electric-Guitar-with-EMG-81-85-Pickups-515622-i1386472.gc

just guitar options, but they will have to wait untill after the amp, cuz as you know, thats the most important,

heres a nice amp (all tube, and semi-cheap)
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/B52-60Watt-1x12-Tube-Combo?sku=480046
#21
What's a good price range to sell what I have right now?

I'm setting 200$ but it seems a little too low to sell it all for that.
#22
I'd go for at least $300 for guitar and amp, if not $350. If it were me I'd go high first and see if you get lucky or pawn the amp off on someone who's just starting or has no clue for retail price, and then sell the guitar for maybe $225 or $250, maybe more, if it's in good shape.

Edit: That B-52 posted above is a good choice for an amp too.
#23
Both the guitar and the amp are like new.

I just restrung it too with 0.010 Guage Elixers also so I guess 350 would be good.
#24
Quote by chip46
New amp first. Aside from that, I'd say save up more money. You're selling a $300 guitar and buying another $300 guitar. Doesn't make sense to me. Save up about twice that, then sell the SG, now you've got about $800-$900 you can spend on a really nice guitar, not just another starter-esque guitar you'll want to sell in another 8 months.


Technically the Jackson is worth 400, (it's on sale) so it's just out of the "starter guitar" price range.

But anyways, I own a Jackson JSKE30, and it sounded very muddy until I changed the bridge pickup (don't use neck pickup). It now stands decently against higher end Jackson's I have and it has not failed me once yet. I can't give you an opinion on the Ibanez because I have not played it.

And don't be fooled by the Indian Cedro body- indian cedro means indian alder.

I can't tell you what to go for, you have to try them out yourself. Ibanez has to my believe a thinner neck then Jackson.
Last edited by DIMEBAGLIVEDON at Jul 27, 2009,
#25
Quote by Kenji20022
Both the guitar and the amp are like new.

I just restrung it too with 0.010 Guage Elixers also so I guess 350 would be good.


Yeah. You could even go higher than that, just don't exceed the original cost of both items. You never know who's willing to buy, you just don't want to short yourself. If all else, you lower the price little by little till it sells.
#28
When looking into a new amp, look into the Randall MTS series. I have the RM80, and it is great. It just depends on what preamp modules you get. I'd say the Blackface for cleans and the 1086 mod'd by Pete Turley (okstrat on the MTS forum). I have the mod'd 1086, and it is perfect for metal. It could use a EQ or OD, but overall it is great, and the one i have is the earlier mod; he has probably improved it a lot more. You can also ask him what module he will take for the Mesa Mark Mod. I know he takes the Ultra Lead, but those are hard to find b/c they aren't made anymore. I was lucky enough to get my hands on one, and once i have the money, it is going straight to him for the mod!

RM50:http://www.dcmusicstore.com/Randall-RM50B-Amplifier
Clips: http://www.bandslink.com/randall.htm
MTS Forum: http://mtsforum.grailtone.com/index.php
1087 (pete's mod): http://mtsforum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=7877 (first vid).
Mesa Mark: http://mtsforum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=7919

Or if you are really ambition, you can try Anthony's (Salvation on MTS forum) 1666 mod. It is brutal!!

1666: http://mtsforum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=7373&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Here is one of his new clean mods; he can use any clean module, so if you get the Blackface and don't like it, send it to him and i guarantee you will like it.

LoneClean: http://mtsforum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=7915

Edit: If you can, try and look used for the amp; try ebay, cl, or the MTS forum, but try the forum first. You should be able to get a great deal. New this will run you about $1600 (depending on if you get a mod or not). You might be able to find the amp used for $500-$700. Modules you might be able to find used for $130-$160. Keep an eye out, this is definitely worth checking out. I have one, so i can assure you that you won't be disappointed. If you don't like the tone you get, you can either get a new module or get a current one mod'd, and if you get it mod'd, you are almost guaranteed a amazing module.

Good Luck. Any questions, just ask.
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Last edited by JKMV11 at Jul 27, 2009,
#29
Quote by Kenji20022
I'm setting the price for these 2 at 400$ and hopefully someone who doesn't really know much will take it up.

Then I'll get a good amp
I'm liking this Fender


That's not really a great amp, a slight step up if not on par with the amp you have now. Same thing said about the guitar applies to the amp too, you want to upgrade not move sideways.