#1
I have the riffs worked out and everything, but I'm stuck on pitching a solo in there somewhere, mostly determining the mood whether it be triumphant or dark.

Halp?
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dont put in a solo? where does it say you need a solo in a metal song?

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#5
I've been dicking around with it for a while. Maybe it just doesn't need a solo.
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dont put in a solo? where does it say you need a solo in a metal song?
This is sort of good advice actually. If the song works by itself without a solo don't feel you have to put a solo in just because. I'd rather hear a song without a solo than a song with a solo that's uninspired and sounds tacked on.

If you really want to put a solo in my advice is twofold. First Listen to your song and determine were a solo would fit best and what you want the overall mood to be (Don't forget you can change moods in the middle of a solo. Or have more than one solo) Then listen to solo's that you like and that you feel evoke the mood you want. Sit down and look at why they sound like that, how they phrase everything etc
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Quote by Psychaberration
dont put in a solo? where does it say you need a solo in a metal song?

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#8
Wonderful. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks
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#9
1) make the rhythm tracks you'd have behind the solos, if you have 2 in mind make both
2) record yourself playing over each rhythm track for at least 30 mins
3) listen back to both and see what you like from each
4) splice them together into a solo

works for me when i'm stuck on what to do.
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#10
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We can't really give opinions without hearing the riff or track.

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#11
I think that its good to have a solo if you can, but there will be the odd times when one won't fit. Basically if I were you I would loop the rhythm and improvise and just find what I like
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#12
Do you have a GP/PT file of this song? If so maybe posting it could help us give some tips for writing a solo, or if it needs one at all.
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Metallica thought that and look what happened.

What about For Whom the Bell Tolls? I would consider that a successful endeavor in eschewing a solo (whammy bar wanking at the end doesn't count )

In reference to the TS: although we try our best to help, you are going to have to make the artistic choices yourself. If you are stuck having to choose between two options, do what doive said and just do both, and THEN step back and determine if you will ultimately use both, one, try to mix them or chuck them both and start the process over again.
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What about For Whom the Bell Tolls? I would consider that a successful endeavor in eschewing a solo (whammy bar wanking at the end doesn't count )

I actually liked that a lot - I thought of the melody in the middle as a good thing instead of a solo. To be honest, I don't like a lot of Kirk's solos.

TC, what's your opinion on melodic solos? In the song's I've written, I have played the vocal line on guitar over a rhythm track, then playing around with some variations and arpeggios. That ties the song together nicely and it gives me a strong basis for what I want to play. You might want to try that.
#16
I'm pretty sure it was the guitarist from EXTREME that said when writing a song if it feels like a song that needs a solo he'll put one in but if he feels it doesn't need one then thats how it gets left.

So basically does the song FEEL like it needs a solo?
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