#1
ok i was discussing with my freind who is pretty smart and he learns all these scales and stuff and tries to use every one of them...
me however is happy with just using the pentatonic, i find it simple enough and easy to improvise with. i do know my blues, major, minor, mixo, etc. but i just dont use them.

note: im into classic rock such as hendrix, cream, small faces, pink floyd, etc.

any thoughts?
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#3
i said i just like to mainly use the Pentatonic, occasionly using the blue notes and mabye some chromatic/minor.
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I try to use every scale I know when I'm improvising. If you stick to the major and minor pentatonic then your playing will eventually begin to sound stale. Even if you use something as simple as a harmonic minor scale during a solo, it will really add some new aspects to your style of playing.

The more scales you know, the more interesting your playing will be.
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#8
You need to learn all the scales and the order. If you're just playing within the same 3-5 frets you can't change it up too much. Once you can move up and down the fretboard it opens everything up.
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#9
I don't think you should learn a bunch of crazy scales just for sake of knowing lots of scales.
Eventually, they will get hard to remember.
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#10
You don't HAVE to do anything. The whole point of playing guitar is to have fun, and hopefully express yourself to some extent. If you can do that with pentatonics, great. Its also great that you know other scales, so you have the option of using them if and when you want to
#11
You don't need to learn loads of scales, most modern music is built rounf the major or minor scale anyway. Don't get fooled by thinking you need to learn modes, it's poppycock.

Knowledge is no substitute for creativity - if you can't create something worthwhile from the simple pentatonic scale then you're no more likely to do so with any other scale.
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thanks guize ^.^
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Quote by neo14085
ok i was discussing with my freind who is pretty smart and he learns all these scales and stuff and tries to use every one of them...
me however is happy with just using the pentatonic, i find it simple enough and easy to improvise with. i do know my blues, major, minor, mixo, etc. but i just dont use them.

note: im into classic rock such as hendrix, cream, small faces, pink floyd, etc.

any thoughts?



The bigger your musical vocabulary, the better. If anything it gives you something to practice with. So yeah, learn as many as you can.
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#14
It's good to know you're scales, but don't limit your self diatonically. Not everything has to have theory behind it. I'll play something out of a scale, because it sounds good. I dont care if it's not in the same key or the right scale over a certain chord.
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I'm a badass power metal guitarist and all I need to know is the 3 note per string major scale and how to rip other people's songs off.
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#16
It's useful to know a fair few different scales if you use a lot of different chords with altered notes, or strange chord progressions in order to improvise over them.
But unless you can play a scale in all different positions across the neck, recognise the intervals and notes in the scale and make licks out of the scale in every different key, then what good is trying to learn another?
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#17
Its not about the number of scales you know. After all, there are plenty of musicians who dont actually know theory, but still come up with amazing tunes.

On the other hand, it is sometimes useful to know some.

I tend to improvise using modes, but only stick the the modes of the major scale. They have all the different sounds I usually need.
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#18
i think it doesnt hurt to know scales, maybe at least one for each key, so when youre jamming out of no where, and you ask for the key, you have a scale up your sleeve to improvise to?
just maybe.
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scales are very important in soloing and speed a good book on scales is the guitar grimoire scales and modes by adam kadmon. It is NOT A DEMONIC BOOK . its a book that every guitar player should have here's what it looks like http://www.di-arezzo.com/multimedia...r//couv/gt1.jpg get this its like a dictionary for scales

Scales are nothing to do with speed, and the Guitar Grimoire is horrendously over-rated and not all that useful.
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Scales are nothing to do with speed, and the Guitar Grimoire is horrendously over-rated and not all that useful.
+1

I never saw the point of books of scales for guitar - all you need is the formula for a scale and you can play it in any key anyway...so whats the point of the book (other than to make money)?