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#1
I'm just wondering what are some really nice Pick-Ups that'll help me get that 80s Thrash Metal sound like Megadeth, Uncle Slam, Toxic, Forbidden, etc.

Or if you want, you can just tell me what to look for in a Pick-Up to get this sound, then I can find one on my own.

Thanks
#5
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Emg 81 and 85.


+1.
Used on pretty much every great Eighties Thrash album.
#6
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Emg 81 and 85.

No...

Get some high output vintage passive pickups
#7
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+1.
Used on pretty much every great Eighties Thrash album.

fo shizzy? lol ok thanks man, I'll check those out..... then figure out how to put them on.
#8
Getting an amp similar to the bands you like is the best way to get close to their sound.

But if you really want pickups, Mustain uses his own 'live wire' pickups for example. Just look at the pickups used by the bands you like
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#9
A real marshall would probably help that tone to reach 80's way better than new pickups
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#10
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A real marshall would probably help that tone to reach 80's way better than new pickups


What amp would you recommend?
#12
Should I try to find a really nice amp for cheap on eBay, or should I save up more money to buy one brand new?
#13
first ask the guy about his budget

what is your budget for a new amp?

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#14
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Should I try to find a really nice amp for cheap on eBay, or should I save up more money to buy one brand new?


most used amps are just fine

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Should I try to find a really nice amp for cheap on eBay, or should I save up more money to buy one brand new?

Maybe look for a used Marshall JCM800 or Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier.
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first ask the guy about his budget

what is your budget for a new amp?


Currently I have around 1000$, but I'm trying to start making my own home recording studio too.

So far I plan on buying the Shure SM57 Microphone with Behringer TRUTH B2030A Active Monitors from Guitar Center, so all together I think it'll be like 400 dollars.

so with 600$ left, I'm pretty sure I'll have to save up more, but I might also sell my two other amps which are Line 6 Spider III 75 and Marshall MG 100HDFX.

I don't wanna just buy an amp then not like it a day later, ya know?
#17
Amp before pickups . Since you want 80's Thrash I would recommend a JCM800 because it's what a lot of bands used such as Slayer, Metallica, etc. or you could cheap out(although it's not necessarily cheaping out) and buy a JCM900 which has more gain but lacks the amazing tone that comes with the JCM800 but it still sounds great

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Quote by ChadHasADD
Currently I have around 1000$, but I'm trying to start making my own home recording studio too.

So far I plan on buying the Shure SM57 Microphone with Behringer TRUTH B2030A Active Monitors from Guitar Center, so all together I think it'll be like 400 dollars.

so with 600$ left, I'm pretty sure I'll have to save up more, but I might also sell my two other amps which are Line 6 Spider III 75 and Marshall MG 100HDFX.

I don't wanna just buy an amp then not like it a day later, ya know?


If used is an option then you could try and find a deal on eBay for a combo version of the amps I listed above, because you can find them relatively cheap but when you buy the whole stack your asking for a bigger price tag.
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#18
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Getting an amp similar to the bands you like is the best way to get close to their sound.

But if you really want pickups, Mustain uses his own 'live wire' pickups for example. Just look at the pickups used by the bands you like


Thats how Mustaine gets his sustain.


EMG 81 and 85, as someone said.
#19
My JB does a really great thrash metal sound. The treble/presence gives it some nice bite with a good high gain amp.
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My JB does a really great thrash metal sound. The treble/presence gives it some nice bite with a good high gain amp.

can you give me the full name of the amp?
#21
JB is a seymour duncan pickup.

To an above user: What's the difference between a JCM 800 and a JCM 900?? I might be getting my hands on a JCM 900 head pretty soon.
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#22
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JB is a seymour duncan pickup.

To an above user: What's the difference between a JCM 800 and a JCM 900?? I might be getting my hands on a JCM 900 head pretty soon.

JCM 900=Higher gain
JCM 800= vintage/better tone

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#23
Are you biased in liking a vintage tone more than high-gain? Or does it just sound better?
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#24
I will go for the vintage tone
but its a matter of taste, some may preffer the higher gain

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#25
we've gotten sorta off topic lol

So I should just work on saving up for the JCM800? Does it matter if I buy the Cabinet AND Head or can I just buy the Head?
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we've gotten sorta off topic lol

So I should just work on saving up for the JCM800? Does it matter if I buy the Cabinet AND Head or can I just buy the Head?


Dont do that!!
you NEED a cabinet
meaby not the matching cabinet (even when thats the reccomended thing) but at least a cabinet with higher wattage
you cant use a head without a cabinet
if you are out of cash go for a combo versiob of the JCM800

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#28
What if I just use the cabinet from my Marshall MG100HDFX? That's what I was planning on doing if I could.
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What if I just use the cabinet from my Marshall MG100HDFX? That's what I was planning on doing if I could.

It would sound like crap for the time being.

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JB is a seymour duncan pickup.

To an above user: What's the difference between a JCM 800 and a JCM 900?? I might be getting my hands on a JCM 900 head pretty soon.


Like the guy above said. Personally the JCM 900 sounds great to me, much better than the DSL 100's. But the 800 is does have the better tone, which is why it's so desirable and expensive.
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#30
the JCM 900 simply sounds smoother as well as having more gain, its less of a classic RAWK sound I suppose. Still ball shaking tone though
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What if I just use the cabinet from my Marshall MG100HDFX? That's what I was planning on doing if I could.


that will sound decent for a while
but you should get matching cabinet (or another if you will, just make sure its a good one) when you got the money for it

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#32
sorry, why cant you use a head by itself??
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#33
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sorry, why cant you use a head by itself??

Theirs no speakers in it. You get 0 sound .
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#34
Dont get EMG's they sound like poo when you play them with SS amps, like yours. In my opinion they sound like poo in general.
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#35
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sorry, why cant you use a head by itself??


If you power up a head without a cab attached, you can seriously damage the head. Heads don't have speakers. There is no sound produced directly from the head, you must run it through a cab.
#36
I feel that the JB is a more "modern" sounding pickup. Personally, I would go with dimarzios. a PAF-Joe in the neck and a Super Distortion in the bridge would fit your needs perfectly.
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#37
80's Thrash Metal. All the below info is from 2/4 'Big Four' Thrash Metal Bands, from their gear in the 80's only.

Metallica:

Kirk Hammett had a Black Gibson Flying V with probably the stock pickups at the time of the first two albums and probably didn';t switch to EMG's till' the Black Album. He also used a Jackson RR1T (I believe this was the model. It was an RR1 of some sort), which had 2 Seymour Duncan pickups. JB/Jazz (TB4/SH2 ; bridge/neck) combo.

Hetfield started using EMG's starting with Ride the Lightning in his Explorer shaped guitars made by various companies. It was an 81/60 combo (bridge/neck) combo.


Megadeth

Dave Mustaine initially used the 10 string B.C. Rich in the beginning of his career with unknown pickups. In Megadeth, he started to use the Jackson King V that used the JB/Jazz pickups as in the Jackson Randy Rhoads as well. He switched pickups in the late 80's/early 90's to some sort of active pickup, I believe. I do not know whether these were EMG's or SD Livewires.

His other guitarists in the 80's used I believe Jackson RR's. I'm not familiar with their guitars/gear.


Amps:

Metallica used Marshall JCM 800's and Mesa Boogie IIC+ and Dual Rectifiers.

Megadeth probably used Marshall amps as well.
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#38
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Well Ride the Lightning was recorded on JCM 800s.


You also can't forget that JCM 800's were also used on Reign in Blood.
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or practically any 80;s recording
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#40
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What if I just use the cabinet from my Marshall MG100HDFX? That's what I was planning on doing if I could.


That's probably the worst part of an MG. Low end Marshalls get awful speakers. My AVT sounded 10x better after a swap.
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