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Hey gamers/techies of the pit, I've got an aluminum macbook 2.0 ghz, and I'm going to be going on a trip in a while, and i wanted to stick Doom 3 on it for the car ride. I've installed it and it's reasonably playable, the problem is that it's very laggy at almost all times, except when in small rooms. the mac has 2 gb of ram and is pretty much upgraded as far as it can go, does anyone know what i can do to get the frame rate up a bit? most other games runs ok.
I've tried turning shadows off, running it on it's lowest settings, etc, but nothing helps.


I know this should be in the game thread, but it's less about the game, more about system settings.
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Quote by Lt. Shinysides
Hey gamers/techies of the pit, I've got an aluminum macbook 2.0 ghz, and I'm going to be going on a trip in a while, and i wanted to stick Doom 3 on it for the car ride. I've installed it and it's reasonably playable, the problem is that it's very laggy at almost all times, except when in small rooms. the mac has 2 gb of ram and is pretty much upgraded as far as it can go, does anyone know what i can do to get the frame rate up a bit? most other games runs ok.
I've tried turning shadows off, running it on it's lowest settings, etc, but nothing helps.


I know this should be in the game thread, but it's less about the game, more about system settings.


Turn all of the settings on low for the game itself.

Macbooks have different settings for performance/battery life, eh?

Set that to whichever seems the most performance enhancing, and that's pretty much all you can do.

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#4
Everyone is just going to say "Don't buy macs for games." It's probably because it's not plugged in/the laptop is moving a lot. Go into the prefs of it though and see what you can do. (command+comma)
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#5
It's probably got more to do with your graphics processor. My last-gen MacBook ran Quake IV (wasn't it IV?) at about 3 fps, even though its fit the specs for RAM and processing power and whatnot.

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Everyone is just going to say "Don't buy macs for games." It's probably because it's not plugged in/the laptop is moving a lot. Go into the prefs of it though and see what you can do. (command+comma)



no it's plugged into the power supply and sitting on a desk when i play it.

and to the inevitable trolls who go "OMGZ MAC IZ T3H SUCK BUY PCCCC!!!!" I do HAVE a pc that i use for gaming, but it's a desktop. my laptop is the mac.
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It's probably got more to do with your graphics processor. My last-gen MacBook ran Quake IV (wasn't it IV?) at about 3 fps, even though its fit the specs for RAM and processing power and whatnot.


3fps? Ouch..
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It's probably got more to do with your graphics processor. My last-gen MacBook ran Quake IV (wasn't it IV?) at about 3 fps, even though its fit the specs for RAM and processing power and whatnot.



it's running the game at about 35 fps, whereas my PC (with a lower end graphics processor) runs it at around 50 fps. I think it's just the fact that it's a mac
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it's running the game at about 35 fps, whereas my PC (with a lower end graphics processor) runs it at around 50 fps. I think it's just the fact that it's a mac


Or the fact that it's a laptop? Smaller form parts are still less performance oriented, even if they have the same specs.
#10
the default settings with leapord when not plugged in is to have the best battery life, not best performance. just a thought
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3fps? Ouch..

Yeah, it was unplayably glitchy

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#12
Not much you can do, except turn the graphics and setting to their lowest, and close everything else. This has probably been said, but I'm just trying to help.
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#13
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#14
your mac is probably running a 9400m. it's a decent graphics card, but it's only good for most basic gaming. plus, when you're laptop is unplugged, it tends reduce it's performance to save battery life.

and i'm assuming you dual-booted windows, right? running windows on a virtual machine is a horrible decision especially if you're gaming.

EDIT: and check your graphics device in device manager. when you dual-boot windows, the driver for the 9400m may not be installed properly, so you'll have to go to nvidia's website and manually install the graphics driver.
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the default settings with leapord when not plugged in is to have the best battery life, not best performance. just a thought



yeah but it IS plugged in and its still laggy as hell. I think it's a combination of Laptop + Mac. i know for a fact PC gaming laptops are huge and heavy for a reason. but this is small and light... for a reason
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your mac is probably running a 9400m. it's a decent graphics card, but it's only good for most basic gaming. plus, when you're laptop is unplugged, it tends reduce it's performance to save battery life.

and i'm assuming you dual-booted windows, right? running windows on a virtual machine is a horrible decision especially if you're gaming.



no it's all mac. I've got the PC for things requiring a windows OS.
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Try running it under windows (bootcamp, not in a VM). You could try upgrading the RAM a bit, 2GB isn't all that much.
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#18
^it's DDR3-RAM. plus, a core 2 duo processor runs perfectly fine in vista under 2GB.
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no it's all mac. I've got the PC for things requiring a windows OS.

so you're running it on OS X?

i think doom 3 is optimized for windows, mainly because macs use OpenGL and windows uses Direct3D. a lot of developers, when creating an exclusive windows game, use direct 3D.
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* Mac OS X version 10.3.8
* 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 processor (2GHz PowerPC G5 recommended)
* 512MB of RAM
* 64MB video card (128MB recommended): Radeon 9600, GeForce FX 5200, or higher
* 2GB hard disk space
* DVD drive
* Internet play requires broadband connection

These are the minimum specs, I think the problem is that the game came out before Apple switched to Intel processors, so it's running under PPC emulation. Have you got the Universal binary patch for it?

link for patch
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* Mac OS X version 10.3.8
* 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 processor (2GHz PowerPC G5 recommended)
* 512MB of RAM
* 64MB video card (128MB recommended): Radeon 9600, GeForce FX 5200, or higher
* 2GB hard disk space
* DVD drive
* Internet play requires broadband connection

These are the minimum specs, I think the problem is that the game came out before Apple switched to Intel processors, so it's running under PPC emulation. Have you got the Universal binary patch for it?

link for patch

doom came out in 2007. well after apple made the intel switch.
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doom came out in 2007. well after apple made the intel switch.



it says 2005 on the cd case. thats still after mac switched though. im gonna try that patch to see if it does anything
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it came out in 2005, according to this.

if it didn't come out before the switch, then why is there an official universal patch?

edit: 2005 was around the time the switch was being made (the macbook didn't come out till 2006, until then the newest laptops were G4). It's very possible it was initially coded for PPC

also, I am a very sad person to know that off the top of my head.
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#23
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it came out in 2005, according to this.

if it didn't come out before the switch, then why is there an official universal patch?

edit: 2005 was around the time the switch was being made (the macbook didn't come out till 2006, until then the newest laptops were G4). It's very possible it was initially coded for PPC

also, I am a very sad person to know that off the top of my head.

yes, it did. i wiki'd it and looked at the latest version (1.31) which was released in 2007 ...
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#24
The crucial factor here is whether your video memory is shared or dedicated. I don't know which it will be for your model. On the previous generation, the Macbooks had shared memory, which sucks for games, and the Pro series had dedicated memory.
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The crucial factor here is whether your video memory is shared or dedicated. I don't know which it will be for your model. On the previous generation, the Macbooks had shared memory, which sucks for games, and the Pro series had dedicated memory.



it's not a Pro so i guess its shared
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The crucial factor here is whether your video memory is shared or dedicated. I don't know which it will be for your model. On the previous generation, the Macbooks had shared memory, which sucks for games, and the Pro series had dedicated memory.

the 9400m still has dedicated VRAM. the macbook pros (15 inch and higher) come with both a 9400m and 9600m. apple just likes to explain things easily for their customers by explaining that the 9400m is good but the 9600m is better.
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Your only chance really is to install Doom 1 or 2 instead.
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#28
Why not just install it on your Windows OS partition?

Also, if you have the 13", the integrated card is probably kind of weak. The 9600 should be more than enough to handle it though.


OR


You should play CoD4 instead. Works fine on my 2008 MacBook Pro (8600GT).

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Why not just install it on your Windows OS partition?

Also, if you have the 13", the integrated card is probably kind of weak. The 9600 should be more than enough to handle it though.


OR


You should play CoD4 instead. Works fine on my 2008 MacBook Pro (8600GT).



its the 9400m. I don't think there's a way to upgrade that card though. I've got COD, i tried it out and it works very nicely. Doom 3 graphics take a hell of a lot of horsepower to run smoothly though.
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its the 9400m. I don't think there's a way to upgrade that card though. I've got COD, i tried it out and it works very nicely. Doom 3 graphics take a hell of a lot of horsepower to run smoothly though.

Then.......CoD4 on veteran?


It'll keep you busy for a while...

...modes and scales are still useless.


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Then.......CoD4 on veteran?


It'll keep you busy for a while...



yeah, i guess that's my only option as far as advanced modern games go. i was hoping for a good scare though
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yeah, i guess that's my only option as far as advanced modern games go. i was hoping for a good scare though


System Shock 2.

Now.

It's pretty damn old though, but clearly the scariest game ever.
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yeah, i guess that's my only option as far as advanced modern games go. i was hoping for a good scare though

If you really want to play Doom 3, try setting up boot camp and use Vista (turn off Aero) to play it.

I think that's the most direct, but long, solution.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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System Shock 2.

Now.

It's pretty damn old though, but clearly the scariest game ever.



yeah but once *the secret* is revealed it's not so scary anymore. I've played it way too many times. I should get rid of my PC desktop and get an Alien Ware laptop... Dead Space ftw...
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yeah but once *the secret* is revealed it's not so scary anymore. I've played it way too many times. I should get rid of my PC desktop and get an Alien Ware laptop... Dead Space ftw...

No. Alienware is the worst brand of computers out there. Overpriced, cheaply made. I have one. Regret it.

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yeah but once *the secret* is revealed it's not so scary anymore. I've played it way too many times. I should get rid of my PC desktop and get an Alien Ware laptop... Dead Space ftw...


Don't get an Alienware, just trust me.

Terrible customer service, some of the worst out of ANY company I've ever dealt with that sold ANYTHING. Overpriced for NO reason whatsoever. To a ridiculous degree.

If you want a laptop for gaming, Falcon NW, no matter what. If you can't afford that, go for something like Voodoo.

I was sponsored by Falcon NW a long time again, and they've still been giving me discounts on laptops/parts, and their stuff is built to last, completely reliable, and the highest quality.

I don't want to sound like some weird fanboy or salesguy, so just don't go Alien Ware. It's just a glorified Dell.

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It seems that we share this opinion.
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Edit:

It seems that we share this opinion.

Do we also share a wasted $1200?





Fuck you Alienware. So hard.

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Fuck you Alienware. So hard.



i just had a look at one of their laptops. the outer casing tells me all i need to know about it lol.

One of my dad's friends has built many of his own computers, and they're all brilliant, i wonder if i could get him to build me one. it would be a lot cheaper than half the stuff out there.
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Fuck you Alienware. So hard.

Alienware's for people who want everyone to think they have a good computer. My friend's douchebag roommate had one, but it was pwned easily by my friend's custom HP (which was like 22", it was effin' massive).

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