#1
Forget the Marshall Class A 5watt amp look at the new Laney Cub Series

Laney Cub 10:
http://www.dv247.com/invt/66836/

The Laney CUB 10 Guitar Amplifier Combo offers the player a very traditional looking and sounding amp.

The Laney CUB 10 features an 10" Celestion driver and produces 10 watts RMS of classic tube tone from two 6V6GT equipped power section.

Its pre amp consists of Tone & Volume and is loaded with a single ECC83 pre amp tube and with an extra Gain control. Capable of producing a wide range of tube tone the CUB 10 houses an extension speaker socket on the rear panel.

The Laney CUB 10 Guitar Amplifier Combo Main features Include:

•10 Watts RMS Output
•Class A/B
•Traditional Tone and Shape
•10" Celestion Driver
•Extra Gain Control
•2 x ECC83 Pre Amp Tubes
•2 x 6V6GT's Power Section
•Extension speaker socket on the rear panel

Laney Cub 8
http://www.dv247.com/invt/66835/

The Laney CUB 8 Guitar Amplifier Combo offers the player a very traditional looking and sounding amp.

The Laney CUB 8 features an 8" Celestion driver and produces 5 watts RMS of classic tube tone from a single 6V6GT equipped power section.

Its pre amp consists of Tone & Volume and is loaded with a single ECC83 pre amp tube. The CUB 8 houses an extension speaker socket on the rear panel so it can be used to drive a larger speaker should you want to.

The Laney CUB 8 Guitar Amplifier Combo Main features Include:

•5 Watts RMS Output
•Class A
•Traditional Tone and Shape
•8" Celestion Driver
•1 x ECC83 Pre Amp Tube
•Single 6V6GT Equipped Power Section
•Extension speaker socket on the rear panel

Looks pretty nice and it doesnt looked like your going to get ripped off like the Marshall at £299 and the Cub series starting from £169. If your wondering what it sounds like there are demos on the laney site.

Heres the page off the laney site http://www.laney.co.uk/show_range.php?rid=21
Last edited by RHCP_Nirvana_FF at Aug 3, 2009,
#2
Hmm,looks interesting.I think Laney are very under-rated and a nice alternative to Marshall.
TS,is your avatar picture of Josh Homme from the Green Machine video clip?
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#5
Quote by Ian hawkins
Hmm,looks interesting.I think Laney are very under-rated and a nice alternative to Marshall.
TS,is your avatar picture of Josh Homme from the Green Machine video clip?



Nope its dave grohl during the Foo Fighters hyde park concert.

Shame that my crappy guitars stores nearby don't stock the greatest selection of amps so I may need to by the internet.
#6
Quote by RHCP_Nirvana_FF
Nope its dave grohl during the Foo Fighters hyde park concert.

Shame that my crappy guitars stores nearby don't stock the greatest selection of amps so I may need to by the internet.



Eh, you're only a quick train/bus journey from both Manchester and Liverpool.
#7
Quote by greggybhoy
Eh, you're only a quick train/bus journey from both Manchester and Liverpool.


Well a bulk of times i've gone to Guitar stores on my own i'm only 15 and I don't know where some of the stores are in manchester and liverpool.

Btw the cheapest Ive seen both amplifiers is £130 for the CUB 8 and £169 for the CUB 10.
Last edited by RHCP_Nirvana_FF at Aug 4, 2009,
#8
1. where can i buy these?

2. online?

3. worth just buying for a practice amp?
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#9
Bump!

The Cub 10's are selling here for around the same price....i was considering selling my Vox AD30 and getting one of these.

Any reviews/opinions?
#11
i think they're maybe going to be released at musikmesse or namm? looking at the link, they're not in stock yet.
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#12
Bumpage for interestage...

Has anyone played the Cub 8 and 10?

I'm personally quite fond of what I've heard so far (though it's very little). I'm trying to decide whether the 10 watt version might be more suitable for me since it has a gain knob. I might prefer the extra headroom as well.

Thoughts?
#13
The official Laney video about the 10 makes it sound amazing, but then, you shouldn't trust an official video. I read on another forum (HC I think) that you need to turn it up a lot to get good sounds, which would disqualify it as a bedroom amp I guess.
I've wanted to try one out for some time now, but never got to go to Cologne (only place near me where they seem to stock them). I'll go in April, if you can wait that long for a review.
Last edited by TheQuailman at Mar 26, 2010,
#14
Yeah, I can wait that long.

It's funny about the HC comment. I've read others say it's perfectly acceptable for low volumes.

Frankly, though, reading about the poor speaker and shrill valves over the last hour makes me think I should just get a Matamp instead. I mean, what with the cost of a new speaker (£80), new valves (£20), shipping for the speakers, valves and amp, you're looking at only £100 less than a Matamp Minimat, which I know to be awesome.

I'm still interested, though.
#15
Well, what did you expect for the price?
Sounding shrill is pretty much standard for cheap valve amps I guess - my VJ did it and my Blackheart does it. I guess the Cub's tone control should be enough to keep that down.

When it comes to speakers, I wouldn't invest that much... Jensen has 10" speakers in their CH- and Classic-ranges between 35€ and 50€. I might be mistaken, but I think Wes had a CH in his Goldtone combo and was happy with it. Maybe I'm confusing him with someone else though, lol. Maybe ask him when he's around. Anyway, I wouldn't go all high-end with the speaker for a small practice/jamming amp, but that's just me.
#16
I expected MEGAN FOXX IN A FURY PAIR OF PANTIEZ!!!11!!!!!!!!!!1

I'm trying to decide whether I should opt for a cheap amp now, tweak it 'till I'm happy and THEN buy the proper practise amp. Or buy what I feel confident with now, followed by the cheaper, slightly more experimental amp(s) later on.

I'm not trying to get at anyone here, but what is the point of having a cheap practise amp when it's something you'll be using so frequently? You're quite contented to pay £1000 for your main gear, why not splurge for your practise gear, too.
And it's not like splurging on a small amp is even close to splurging on a big amp.

Just a thought.
#17
yeah, i completely disagree with cheaping out for home gear. I only play at home, and I want to have good tone for me. Obviously if I gigged I'd want good gigging tone too, but if it came down to it, I'd not really care if some random dude at the pub whom I don't know thinks I have good tone (if he is even qualified to tell).

that being said, with powerscaling, you don't really have to choose any more. And those "low wattage" amps aren't overly crankable at home anyway.

i still want that vht, though. but it's something of an anomaly, in that it's cheap and handwired, and has triode operation for (slightly) lower volumes. and also (with any luck) voiced the way I want.

EDIT: I haven't tried the laney yet.
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

Last edited by Dave_Mc at Mar 26, 2010,
#18
The Soldano has you spoiled.

Nah, seriously, I get were you're coming from. I'm like that with pedals, my distortion box is worth twice as much as my amp.
It's just that when it comes to amps and speakers, it doesn't cost that much to get a good one anymore, while getting a great one is disproportionally more expensive. It's a problem with most audio equipment. I wouldn't want to practice with equipment I didn't like, but I don't need it to sound absolutely perfect to my ears, just good enough to be fun to use, and I can get that from cheapish stuff most of the time.

But hey, everyone's different in that case. If you want something that offers 100% professional tone for practicing and you want it now, I wouldn't bother with the Cub.
#19
at the risk of looking like I'm sitting on the fence, I also agree with what you're saying.

There's a certain level of crappiness where it makes you not want to play (let's call it the MG factor). Then there's the level where it's good enough to make you still want to play. Then there's awesome, which is noticeably better than "good enough", but which often costs an absolute load of more money. It's a judgement call as to whether "awesome" is worth the premium over "good enough". (obviously that's a bit of a simplification, it's a continuum rather than discrete ratings)

in my experience, anyway.
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

Last edited by Dave_Mc at Mar 26, 2010,
#20
I bought the Cub10 a few months ago, I really like it. BUT, at 10 watts, it's still very loud, far too loud to get above 2 on the volume with the gain on about 7. I've found that, in my opinion, it sounds better plugged into my 1x12 closed back cab with the gain coming from my BOSS DS1 (which I thought sounded like sh1t before this) rather than the overdriven valve sound of the amp. The clean sound is pretty good for a cheap amp though
#21
Quote by Dave_Mc
at the risk of looking like I'm sitting on the fence, I also agree with what you're saying.

There's a certain level of crappiness where it makes you not want to play (let's call it the MG factor). Then there's the level where it's good enough to make you still want to play. Then there's awesome, which is noticeably better than "good enough", but which often costs an absolute load of more money. It's a judgement call as to whether "awesome" is worth the premium over "good enough". (obviously that's a bit of a simplification, it's a continuum rather than discrete ratings)

in my experience, anyway.
As I've become older and my tastes have transformed, so has my disposition towards buying expensive gear. Yet, even if I did have the extra cash to spend on a Diezel Herbert and Hufschmid 8-string, I wouldn't. I'm just not 'ready' for that much responsibility and fuck-off-ness. I should be quite happy with the Soldano, a few pedals, a good small amp, and whatever else I can throw in their that's cheap and spontaneous.

That seems a lot actually...

Quote by TheQuailman
The Soldano has you spoiled.

Nah, seriously, I get were you're coming from. I'm like that with pedals, my distortion box is worth twice as much as my amp.
It's just that when it comes to amps and speakers, it doesn't cost that much to get a good one anymore, while getting a great one is disproportionally more expensive. It's a problem with most audio equipment. I wouldn't want to practice with equipment I didn't like, but I don't need it to sound absolutely perfect to my ears, just good enough to be fun to use, and I can get that from cheapish stuff most of the time.

But hey, everyone's different in that case. If you want something that offers 100% professional tone for practicing and you want it now, I wouldn't bother with the Cub.
Don't you have to actually have the amp to be spoilt by it?

A great amp, when buying new, is definitely disproportionate from other gear, and will cost you the earth. Like I said, I personally am not at a stage, even if I did have the money, where I would spend everything I had on one item.

I don't think I'll ever have the perfect set-up. So I'm the same as you, in that as long as it encourages me to play I'll be contented.

Quote by anguskilminster
I bought the Cub10 a few months ago, I really like it. BUT, at 10 watts, it's still very loud, far too loud to get above 2 on the volume with the gain on about 7. I've found that, in my opinion, it sounds better plugged into my 1x12 closed back cab with the gain coming from my BOSS DS1 (which I thought sounded like sh1t before this) rather than the overdriven valve sound of the amp. The clean sound is pretty good for a cheap amp though
Thanks for the info.

Quote by Dave_Mc
yeah, i completely disagree with cheaping out for home gear. I only play at home, and I want to have good tone for me. Obviously if I gigged I'd want good gigging tone too, but if it came down to it, I'd not really care if some random dude at the pub whom I don't know thinks I have good tone (if he is even qualified to tell).
At the moment, I'm only playing for myself and for the possibility of recording myself one day and writing an album. And even if another band cropped up at some point, I'd still have the Soldano. I will always have a high-gain, loud-as-fuck amplifier--they sound great, after all.

that being said, with powerscaling, you don't really have to choose any more. And those "low wattage" amps aren't overly crankable at home anyway.
If the amp sounds sweet at any volumes, regardless of why, I won't need power-scaling or low wattage.
I mean, Matamp's loud amps still sound wonderful at low volumes. Same goes for Bogner, Diezel, Soldano, etc. It's just a general rule of thumb that the louder it is, if you need to keep it quiet, the more the amp will fizz and poop out on you.

i still want that vht, though. but it's something of an anomaly, in that it's cheap and handwired, and has triode operation for (slightly) lower volumes. and also (with any luck) voiced the way I want.

EDIT: I haven't tried the laney yet.
I thought the Laney had similar features. That's why it caught my eye. I thought it might interest you as well, as someone mentioned before that it had a distinct Blues Junior vibe to it.
#22
^ yeah. I looked into it when i was looking into that fame, but i discounted it for some reason. I think I wasn't super-impressed by the clips. and now that the vht has come along, i figure i might as well get a handwired amp for £120 as a non-handwired (though that might be a fallacy, if they've had to cheap out on the parts in the vht to accomodate the extra cost required in handwiring it... but certainly looking at the gut shots the parts look decent).

I think I've gone off spending tons of money, too (at least until i have an awful lot more money than I do now ). I think having a good amp has shown me that, almost nomatter how much you spend, you'll never have an amp which does everything perfectly, and that you can get good one-trick ponies for not all that much (though that's not as true for the high-gainers, to be fair).

I agree that a lot of the high-end high gainers sound great at low volumes. I still prefer a more vintage amp with power scaling for vintage tones, though (but obviously said high gainer will own those types of amps for the high gain tones).
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

Last edited by Dave_Mc at Mar 27, 2010,
#23
Quote by Dave_Mc
^ yeah. I looked into it when i was looking into that fame, but i discounted it for some reason. I think I wasn't super-impressed by the clips. and now that the vht has come along, i figure i might as well get a handwired amp for £120 as a non-handwired (though that might be a fallacy, if they've had to cheap out on the parts in the vht to accomodate the extra cost required in handwiring it... but certainly looking at the gut shots the parts look decent).

I think I've gone off spending tons of money, too (at least until i have an awful lot more money than I do now ). I think having a good amp has shown me that, almost nomatter how much you spend, you'll never have an amp which does everything perfectly, and that you can get good one-trick ponies for not all that much (though that's not as true for the high-gainers, to be fair).

I agree that a lot of the high-end high gainers sound great at low volumes. I still prefer a more vintage amp with power scaling for vintage tones, though (but obviously said high gainer will own those types of amps for the high gain tones).
I hope the gut-shots that we seen aren't like what you see from a Big-Mac picture at McDonalds. I mean, when you actually get it, the appearance is not quite the same.
#24
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#25
would this amp be loud enoughto jam with a drummer...

my halfstack is hard to lug around when i go for a one time jam
#26
Quote by Ian hawkins
Hmm,looks interesting.I think Laney are very under-rated and a nice alternative to Marshall.
TS,is your avatar picture of Josh Homme from the Green Machine video clip?



they are super underrated. i was going to get a jcm800 then i found a gh50l head for a steal on ebay. i figured itd be on par with the marshall atleast. ended up blowing the marshall out of the water. more agressive tone to it without the drive circut engaged, but once you engage it it just destroys the 800s for sure.
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#27
Quote by '93
would this amp be loud enoughto jam with a drummer...

my halfstack is hard to lug around when i go for a one time jam

The Cub12 and 12R should be worth a look.
#28
So, between the Laney cub 8 for 125e and the Cub12R for 200e which one would you buy?