Rancid Ivy
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#1
Okay so here goes: In ska guitar playing, when you play ska chords, (ex: Beer by Reel Big Fish), do you only barre the strings you need, or do you barre all the strings but only play the strings you need?

Please help me lol
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Do whatever sounds and feels good.
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Rancid Ivy
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Okay so then I'll try on barring the strings I need and if that don't work, then I'll just barre everything
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SKAtastic7770
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#6
It depends on how long of a click you want on the down beat. On your down strokes if you bar the whole chord it will sound like a "fwwomp" or "Woosh", with just the higher strings it will sound more like a "tick". So do whattever sounds good too you, I change between both methods. For Beer I bar the whole chord.
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#7
^^^^^
thanks
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Quote by pinheadslts75
I just play the whole barre.

Me too.
bucketned
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#9
i barre whole chord play half of it
unless i get tired on faster songs in which case i just finger strings that are needed
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#10
ska guitar is so simple...
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#11
Quote by mike2
ska guitar is so simple...


mike I love you........still the problem with ska guitar is, that you get bored so soon that you just don´t concentrate anymore and get out of rhythm from time to time, and playing upbeats at 240 bpm is kind of hard too
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Quote by lavazza
mike I love you........still the problem with ska guitar is, that you get bored so soon that you just don´t concentrate anymore and get out of rhythm from time to time, and playing upbeats at 240 bpm is kind of hard too


I just don't get all the questions on such a simple guitar style!


and I love you too, lavazza...
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Rancid are the best punk band ever.

Tim Armstrong is a songwriting genius, is a complete fashion diva and has an incredible singing voice.

He doesn't sound like Opie from family guy at all.
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#13
Quote by mike2
I just don't get all the questions on such a simple guitar style!

That makes two of us.
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#16
guys, don't be dicks.
he just wanted some people to help him out so he could get it down.
that's no reason to give him crap.

anyways, i always barre all the strings, because to me, it's easier that way.
trying to figure out what strings i'll need before fingering (haha) a chord is a little too confusing.
i'll barre all the strings and if i know i won't use the bass notes (which i usually don't use in ska upstroke chords, but it depends) i'll let a little pressure off of the bass notes so they're muted.
but upstroking will usually keep you from using the bass notes which is why barreing the whole chord is much easier because there's less thinking, you just do it.
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#17
Personally I only play the top octave in the barre (but I barre the whole chord), so from 1st-4th string, like someone said earlier, the lower notes are the bassists problem Depends though, just play it the way the song needs it to be played, using the bottom e might work for what you're doing, but generally speaking, like I said, I pretty much use the higher notes in the chord.
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#18
i only play the bottom three stings. i've always thought i was doing it wrong, but when i try to do the whole barr, it sounds terrible. plus, i'm lazy.
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#19
Quote by mike2
I just don't get all the questions on such a simple guitar style!




So simple why do we have more questions about this than any other guitar question? I bet you wouldn't say that in Jamaica where they'd shred your face off in rhythm reggae style. Its not as 'simple' as you think.
werty22
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#20
Quote by RizzoWashburn
It's pretty simple. Less simple than punk, but still pretty simple.

Actually it's more simple in a way because the rhythm is almost always the same.
SKAtastic7770
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#21
Quote by werty22
Actually it's more simple in a way because the rhythm is almost always the same.

Thats entirely not true. In first wave the rhythm is almost the same but with slides added in, but 3rd wave ska guitarists uses many different strumming patterns, of course usually accentuating the offbeat.
werty22
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#22
Usually accentuating the offbeat? It's not a ska rhythm unless the offbeat is accentuated. I guess I don't listen to much 3rd-wave ska, but usually the only variation I hear is in the muted strums (adding some or taking some away).

Anyway, I probably should have used the phrase "if anything" at the beginning of that sentence to express that I don't really care that much, because it's really stupid to compare two simple, related genres in terms of simplicity. Or I could have said "almost the same." Better yet, I could have not said anything at all.

I still think that punk, being such a broad (and kind of meaningless) genre, allows for more musical variation than ska, which is more restrictive as it's more distinctly defined.
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SKAtastic7770
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#23
Quote by werty22


I still think that punk, being such a broad (and kind of meaningless) genre, allows for more musical variation than ska, which is more restrictive as it's more distinctly defined.

This I agree with entirely. My point was just that a ska rhythm guitarist has a few options.