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What half-stacks can i get that have a nice overdrive on them. I play everything rock from Bluesy stuff to a bit of Metal. Bands i commonly play are Paramore, Foo Fighters, Early Kings of Leon, Led Zeppelin and some Sabbath. I play a Fender Deluxe Fat Strat, and I want a Warm tone that will give me nice bright highs on both clean and Overdrive. Budget is sort of in the balance, I'll pay for whatever as long as it's a fair price and a nice Amp. Fire away with suggestions.
#3
laney vc or the tt but why are u getting a half stack when a combo would do everything u want?
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#5
Why a halfstack?

Also a good ballpark budget would be useful, the list of boutique gear is endless.

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#6
a lot of half stacks have a combo version
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#7
I think you'd really like a Classic 30 combo. Go ahead and flame me because I didn't suggest a half stack.
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I think you should get a full stack, if you dont have enough cash to buy one then just have a garage sale
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For serious you should get a 6505 Combo
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#11
I suggest a Vox AC100. It's a superb amp.
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#12
I don't plan on getting this for a while (after a new practice amp and a new guitar) so budget will be pretty reasonable. I'd be willing to go used for a better price.
#13
A JCM800 would work well. Or a Splawn if you have more money.
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#14
Do you prefer an American voicing or a British one?

edit: and it really would be helpful if you gave a rough ball-park figure at your price limit. Sometimes, it's not a matter of whether you can afford £3000, it's whether you want to spend that much.
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#15
As for the American vs British, i have no preference as i really don't understand the difference. I sure as hell don't wanna spend £3000. Looking more around the £700-£900 range
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As for the American vs British, i have no preference as i really don't understand the difference. I sure as hell don't wanna spend £3000. Looking more around the £700-£900 range

american = peavey, mesa
british = marshall, vox, laney

does that help?
#18
you dont appear to know that much about amps.are you sure you want to spend that much on an amp when you dont understand why you are buying it?
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#19
No offence, mate, but surely that's why he's asking; so he can find out about amps?
His first post says to me he is pretty sure on what he wants. There is no shame in not knowing, though. It doesn't mean he can't ask.

edit: btw, do you need to gig with the amp?
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#20
I'm not planning on getting it today, i'm getting a new practice Amp and a new guitar first which will take some time. I'm just looking for good places to start looking when the time comes.
#21
ENGL Screamer, ENGL Thunder, Peavey Classic 50, Marshall DSL401, Mesa Boogie F-50, Orange Rocker 30, Orange AD30, Koch Studiotone, Bogner Alchemist, Bugera 6262, Laney VC-50, Laney LC50, Line 6 Spider Valve, Marshall JCM800, JCM900, Traynor Custom Valve, Laney GH50LN, Orange Dual Terror Head,

You could also get something like a Vox AC30 and stick an overdrive pedal in front of it. The same can be applied with a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe or Peavey Valveking.

The used market may give you a few more options. Let me see.
#22
JCM800, for sure.
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#23
Go for a tube combo, just be prepared to get hassled for it. My band makes fun of me for playing with a 1x12 Classic 30 even though it's loud enough to knock any of them over.
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Go for a tube combo, just be prepared to get hassled for it. My band makes fun of me for playing with a 1x12 Classic 30 even though it's loud enough to knock any of them over.

My old 'band' made fun of me for taking 20 minutes to carry in and set up my half stack, then having to sit down and catch my breath/cool off afterwards...
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#25
Orange Rocker 30. Needs cabinet. This will be one of the best choices, in my opinion. They have a slightly dark, thick bassy tone, that is perfect for blues and heavy stoner rock.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Orange-Rocker-30-Guitar-Head-Amplifier-EX-DEMO_W0QQitemZ260454619472QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item3ca44e1950&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Here is the combo version.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Orange-Rocker-30C-Combo_W0QQitemZ250475808355QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item3a51858663&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

This has more gain than the Rocker 30, and is thus slightly more whispy and treblely.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Orange-AD30HTC-Electric-guitar-amplifier-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ260458935639QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item3ca48ff557&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Marshall JCM900. The reissues won't be nearly as good as the originals, but it's still worth looking into.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marshall-4100-JCM-900-100w-Head-JCM900-Re-Issue-BSTOCK_W0QQitemZ270405559583QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item3ef56d651f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Marshall DSL series.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marshall-JCM2000-DSL100_W0QQitemZ110419874813QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item19b58993fd&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

This is a nice Marshall. One of the better ones. Check for reliability, though.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MARSHALL-JCM-800-MODEL-2203-FROM-1981-CHEAPEST-ON-EBAY_W0QQitemZ320409449098QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item4a99e4328a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

More Marshalls. I don't actually like them that much, personally, but they do make some good gear, and are very popular for a reason.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MARSHALL-JCM2000-TSL100-AND-1960A-VINTAGE-4X12-CABINET_W0QQitemZ200369068180QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item2ea6ed5894&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marshall-JCM-900-SL-X-Head-Amp-and-4x12-Cab_W0QQitemZ320408192238QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item4a99d104ee&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marshall-JCM-800-2203-Lead-100w-From-1982-Zakk-Wylde_W0QQitemZ190326203939QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item2c50536623&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marshall-JCM-2000-TSL-122-100w-All-Valve-Combo_W0QQitemZ280376963119QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item4147c4f02f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marshall-JCM-900-100w-Hi-Gain-and-1960a-Lead-Cabinet_W0QQitemZ320406309674QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item4a99b44b2a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

This is a great amp for all styles. But is particularly dark and brooding, so it's not for everybody. It also has quite an American/Europian voicing to it that is very thick and intense. It needs a cabinet.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bogner-Alchemist-40w-Head-New_W0QQitemZ170299709433QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item27a6a757f9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

This is a nice little amp, if a little undiscovered and old.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brunetti-Valve-Combo-Cab-MC2_W0QQitemZ190326486295QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item2c5057b517&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

I'm not sure on these amps. They may go over your price range, as well.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mesa-Boogie-Rectoverb_W0QQitemZ120454605465QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item1c0ba76a99&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Some hate this, I like it.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LINE-6-Spider-Valve-212-Tube-Modelling-Guitar-Amp_W0QQitemZ390077366300QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item5ad26c401c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

A couple of nice ENGL's. They are certainly worth looking into for a bright, compressed hard-rock tone.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ENGL-THUNDER-50-REVERB-COMBO-1x12-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ250477919193QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item3a51a5bbd9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Screamer. They are plenty loud enough for most gigs, but also fine for bedroom use.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ENGL-Screamer-50w-1x12-Valve-Combo-Z5-F-Sw-Cover_W0QQitemZ180392806488QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item2a003fc858&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Nice American amp.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Traynor-YCV80Q-From-19-78-per-month_W0QQitemZ150347261103QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item23016524af&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

These are brand-new, so very few people have them, or heard them. But from the few sources so far, they seem very nice.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Blackstar-Series-One-S1-45W-combo-Guitarist-Gold-Star_W0QQitemZ130322668086QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item1e57d61a36&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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avoid the line 6 spider.apart from that all the amps on the list are varying degrees of sonic deliciousness
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#28
For the record TS.... a half stack sounds much different than a combo. For starters, most combos are open back and sound very loose. I think you would be happier with a closed back (if you decide to go combo route). However, my final suggestion is, if you have the money, go with a head and 4x12 closed-back cabinet. There is no law that says you can't practice on a half stack at home, and for me, it works just great. I am going to point you in either the direction of Bugera 333XL (for budget) or a marshall JCM200 DSL head with MC4x12 cabinet (package priced right now, midrange price) to a Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier w/ a Traditional straight 4x12 cabinet (higher price, however IMO worth it).
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For the record TS.... a half stack sounds much different than a combo. For starters, most combos are open back and sound very loose. I think you would be happier with a closed back (if you decide to go combo route). However, my final suggestion is, if you have the money, go with a head and 4x12 closed-back cabinet. There is no law that says you can't practice on a half stack at home, and for me, it works just great.


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<- 1/2 to 3/4 stack owner with great results for bedroom practice as well.
#30
bullsh!t.there is slightly better bass response from a half stack but thats the only difference and that is barely noticeable.practicing on a half stack at home is a waste of money cos u wont be able to turn it up to the levels that the stck sounds best at
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JCM800 is my baby and i use it in my room almost everyday... rents only asked me to turn it down once (which was the day i got it and i wanted to see what i could do with it)
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Quote by Eggmond
bull****.there is slightly better bass response from a half stack but thats the only difference and that is barely noticeable.practicing on a half stack at home is a waste of money cos u wont be able to turn it up to the levels that the stck sounds best at



Wow...and you're an 06'er??

That is hilarious

Put your combo next to my Saxon 4x12 and we'll talk bass response.

Loud =/= sounding good. Especially if you play genres that require more preamp gain than powertube saturation.

More speakers =/= more volume necessarily. More spread, yes, but more volume...not necessarily. Also, the reason a 4x12 has a ****load more bass is because the air is allowed to move around more and not leave the cabinet....whereas...as I said...most combos are open back and flubby.

Also.....I don't think it's a waste of money at all.

Learn your **** before running your mouth.
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well seeing as our amps are completely different it would be useless to compare them.get two amps that are the exactly the same electronically etc... where the only difference is that one is a combo and one is a stack and then compare them.

look at the sound the TS is going for.the sound of an amp breaking up naturally suits him best which is better achieved at bedroom levels with a combo.

and fwi the bass boost is more to do with the contact between the ground and the stack not to do with the air inside it

oh and dont try sound like a hard man on the internet.you just look pathetic
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Quote by Eggmond
well seeing as our amps are completely different it would be useless to compare them.get two amps that are the exactly the same electronically etc... where the only difference is that one is a combo and one is a stack and then compare them.

look at the sound the TS is going for.the sound of an amp breaking up naturally suits him best which is better achieved at bedroom levels with a combo.

and fwi the bass boost is more to do with the contact between the ground and the stack not to do with the air inside it

oh and dont try sound like a hard man on the internet.you just look pathetic


Do your homework first dude. Contact between the ground and the stack?? What the **** do you think your combo sits on? Jesus....

Hard man on the internet? Get a life man.

Amp breakup has nothing to do with combo vs. head. A Blackstar HT-5 breaks up pretty ****ing early if I recall correctly.

Also...last time I checked...Paramore was using Marshall's or Boogies.
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#35
Do your homework first dude. Contact between the ground and the stack?? What the **** do you think your combo sits on? Jesus....


i have done my homework.i study mathematical physics and because the stack is heavier it compresses the ground more and makes the cab more responsive to lower frequencies as it is denser. what reasoning do you have for the air being trapped inside the cab improving the bass response?


Amp breakup has nothing to do with combo vs. head. A Blackstar HT-5 breaks up pretty ****ing early if I recall correctly.


combos are generally lower wattage which means you dont have to drive them as hard to make them break up.

why the hell would anyone need a stack just for practicing?
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why the hell would anyone need a stack just for practicing?


Cause they want one? They shouldn't need to justify a need to you, or anyone else on the forum. Especially those that say "don't get a halfstack, just get a combo...its just as good"
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cause they want one? hahaha that is the worst argument i've ever heard. so basically you are saying that you cant give any reason why someone should choose a halfstack over a combo for practicing
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Quote by Eggmond
cause they want one? hahaha that is the worst argument i've ever heard. so basically you are saying that you cant give any reason why someone should choose a halfstack over a combo for practicing


I use mine because of the following reasons:

A) More headroom
B) More bass response
C) Less power tube saturation
D) I gig regularly
E) Cause I ****ing want to
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Quote by Brendan.Clace
Cause they want one? They shouldn't need to justify a need to you, or anyone else on the forum. Especially those that say "don't get a halfstack, just get a combo...its just as good"



Quote by Eggmond
cause they want one? hahaha that is the worst argument i've ever heard. so basically you are saying that you cant give any reason why someone should choose a halfstack over a combo for practicing


Guys, calm down.

You both just have a difference of opinion and why you both are so argumentative is beyond me.

Some people think halfstacks suit their purpose, some people prefer combo's.

Get over it and get over your own ego's.

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for gigging yes stacks are good but none of those reasons apply for an amp that is purely for practicing except 'cause you ****ing want to'. do you really thank you can justify spending that amount of money on a stack on a whim when you can get a combo for much less?
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