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so i've been looking for a new guitar and im wondering: is a floyd rose even worth it? i mean they're awesome and stuff but.........i mean it's soooo much work....

If i got one i'd use it a lot for solos but that's probably it, MAYBE i'd use it like eventually in a song as the main riff but it'd mostly be for solos. I hear that the ZR tremelos which come with Ibanez S Series guitars are really cool and require less work than a standard floyd rose.

So is a floyd rose REALLY worth it? and what about other tremelo bars that are less work? i've heard of kahler tremelos but the only guitars i can find with them are Slayer's guitarists' signature guitars. are there any other good tremelos out there(other than bigsbys, Fender's strat and jag/jazzmaster trememlos)?
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Depends on how you plan to use it..

Are you going to do a lot of dive bombs?
I mean if you're going to frequently push the trem way down so the strings are like speghetti?
then yes, it's worth it.

If you're just using it for some light to medium whammy, like maybe 2 tones down and 1 tone up, then you don't really need it.

Strat style tremolos CAN be setup to keep their tuning well for light/medium tremolo use.

But if you're gonna go Eddie Van Halen on it, then yes the floyd will be usefull.

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its worth it if u are gonna use it. you might get one just to have it, and think its fun for a good week, but if u have no use for it its just excess work. changing strings about triples in time, and changing tunings is nearly impossible on the fly, cause once u change tunings u have to adjust the floyd to be level.
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#5
They are worth it. Ibanez Edge, Edge Pro, Lo Pro are excellent LFR's
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#6
Worth it no matter what.

They just stay in tune soooooo much better than a standard tremelo.

And the ZR trems, IMO, are better than the floydes.
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Quote by srob7001
Worth it no matter what.

They just stay in tune soooooo much better than a standard tremelo.

And the ZR trems, IMO, are better than the floydes.



Whats the difference? i know its MUCH easier to set up a ZR than a floyd rose but do you still have to go through the hour+ hassle of changing strings?
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Quote by Nirvana00125
Whats the difference? i know its MUCH easier to set up a ZR than a floyd rose but do you still have to go through the hour+ hassle of changing strings?

Never fiddled around with a ZR, but probably yes.
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^Edge 3's are fine trems, just get really underrated because they are on cheap guitars and are bought by people who have no clue what they are doing, so they don't set it up right and then complain about it.
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Quote by jonmo1
Depends on how you plan to use it..

Are you going to do a lot of dive bombs?
I mean if you're going to frequently push the trem way down so the strings are like speghetti?
then yes, it's worth it.

If you're just using it for some light to medium whammy, like maybe 2 tones down and 1 tone up, then you don't really need it.

Strat style tremolos CAN be setup to keep their tuning well for light/medium tremolo use.

But if you're gonna go Eddie Van Halen on it, then yes the floyd will be usefull.



well that's the thing is that im okay at soloing but i could be much better so i think i should just wait until im better. its just that right now is the best time to buy a guitar cuz i have lots of spare money to buy one. So maybe i should wait like 1 or 2 years to get better at soloing/shredding?(idk really how long it takes to really get better at that, lol because i know 1 other person who plays guitar and he plays a more bluesy kind of style so he doesnt play too fast for the most part) :P
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Quote by Nirvana00125
Whats the difference? i know its MUCH easier to set up a ZR than a floyd rose but do you still have to go through the hour+ hassle of changing strings?


Takes me 10+ minutes to change strings... The ZR and OFR both have there strengths and weaknesses.

the good thing about ZR is that it is easier to setup, The bad thing is it's range is slightly less then an OFR, and it also feels a little stiffer IMO.

OFR's are "harder" to setup, but the range is larger, and the just feel smoother me.


Another problem I had with OFR's was low action made the strings dampen out on the fret board when you pull far up on the tremolo.

The ZR's ball-bearing system eliminates this, as the strings are slightly raised when the tremolo is pulled back, Instead of being pulled down like with an OFR.
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Quote by GS LEAD 5
Just don't get an Ibanez Edge 3, those are well and truly useless

Have you ever used an edge-III?


And yes, they're worth it.
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ZR are geat. i had it on my s470dx
i dunno about edge 3 cuz i never tried them but i tried a OFR and lo pro edge and they stay in tune perfectly.
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Quote by biga29

Takes me 10+ minutes to change strings... The ZR and OFR both have there strengths and weaknesses.

the good thing about ZR is that it is easier to setup, The bad thing is it's range is slightly less then an OFR, and it also feels a little stiffer IMO.

OFR's are "harder" to setup, but the range is larger, and the just feel smoother me.


Another problem I had with OFR's was low action made the strings dampen out on the fret board when you pull far up on the tremolo.

The ZR's ball-bearing system eliminates this, as the strings are slightly raised when the tremolo is pulled back, Instead of being pulled down like with an OFR.


Plum writing beat me to it.

Also Edge III are perfectly fine tremelo's if you know what you are doing with it. Mine has lasted a few years now with many MANY harsh dives with quick pull ups. Is it the best? Hell no, but its not a piece of crap like some tend to think. You get what you pay for.

The ultimate test IMO for any floating bridge is the "flutter" test. If you can make the guitar flutter easily and it stays in tune then its a good bridge and is most likly set up well.
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I can't stand them, but hey this is just one mans opinion.


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Quote by biga29

Takes me 10+ minutes to change strings... The ZR and OFR both have there strengths and weaknesses.

the good thing about ZR is that it is easier to setup, The bad thing is it's range is slightly less then an OFR, and it also feels a little stiffer IMO.

OFR's are "harder" to setup, but the range is larger, and the just feel smoother me.


Another problem I had with OFR's was low action made the strings dampen out on the fret board when you pull far up on the tremolo.

The ZR's ball-bearing system eliminates this, as the strings are slightly raised when the tremolo is pulled back, Instead of being pulled down like with an OFR.


how long did it take you to sent up your zr for the first time? and what about changing strings because i saw a video on youtube of a pro who had played with floyd roses for years and it still took him i think he said like 30minutes to change strings :P not including setting up the tremelo
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Quote by Nirvana00125
how long did it take you to sent up your zr for the first time? and what about changing strings because i saw a video on youtube of a pro who had played with floyd roses for years and it still took him i think he said like 30minutes to change strings :P not including setting up the tremelo


Well When I got my ZR, I was already good at doing it from changing OFR's, And it's not that different. I mean, I've never timed myself changing strings, and I've never tried to speed through it either, but I'm pretty sure it would take me 30 minutes tops, But definitely not an hour, and usually quicker. Just change the strings one at a time, you don't have to block the bridge. Also, if your going back to the same tuning/gauge, Re-setup is minimal, if at all.

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