#1
On american musical they dropped the prices for the line 6 100 head to 450usd...and if you choose the 3 month installment payments you pay only 150$ a month..any thoughts?
#2
cheaper but still crap.
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#3
when something drops that hard, it must be crap
and its a line 6 amp which is self-explanatory.
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#6
for that much I assume mean the spider III?

Just try playing at a volume needed for gigging. See what happens.

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#7
Yea ive used this line 6 at a reheasal studio...i dont know why theyre saying it sucks cuz it sounded great...
#9
Is it a spider 3 or a different Line 6?

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#10
Its a line-6 spider valve HD100 head...just look it up real quick on google...its a great sounding amp
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when something drops that hard, it must be crap
and its a line 6 amp which is self-explanatory.

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Quote by Dawnwalker
when something drops that hard, it must be crap
and its a line 6 amp which is self-explanatory.


This is the problem with band wagons.
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#13
Thank god for someone recognizing their ignorance...the price probably dropped because of their price match guarantee..i seen this happen with the jackson sls3...the price on that guitar jumped right back uplike a week later
#14
It could certainly be a price match thing. It could also be a case of supply/demand, Line 6 aren't exactly terribly popular right now and haven't been for some time.

It is a shame because their valve amps are actually very nice all-rounders. Their Spider III series are simply trash though and have given them a bad rep and though their valve amps are tonal mid-points, it does mean if you want a really modern tone or a really vintage tone they're not going to quite reach that, and most people are after one specific type of tone, usually one of the two extremes.
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#15
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Woah why are you guys bashing the amp? What so crap about it?


It sounds pretty meh.

Get a used Flextone or Vetta, sometimes you can grab them for $300ish. They're infinitely better then a Spider.

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Its a line-6 spider valve HD100 head...just look it up real quick on google...its a great sounding amp


If it's a Spider Valve, they sound much better at high volumes then other Spiders, and overall somewhat better.
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#16
Unless its a Flextone, Vetta, or Spider valve don't even think about it. Spider solid states ARE trash, and while they're ok for small scale rehershal, for gigging they sound like utter ass. I really wouldn't get a spider valve either, but they're atleast passable.
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#17
if it was an HD 147 it'd be a different story.

but if we're talking about a spider HD100. well.. skip it. even if it drops to $200.

there's nothign wrong with the practice amps for well.. practice. but the 100 watt halfstacks just aren't worth your while.
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#18
Well, if the Spider Valve has a FX loop, it would make a nice power amp for a POD.

Mmm, Flexvalve.
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#19
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This is the problem with band wagons.

Unfortunately, This band wagon is true. It's so digital that it hurts to hear it (the spyder III that is) I found a youtube video of a guy playing the same riffs, on the same settings of a Spyder III and Peavey vyper, and the Vyper sounded so much more authentic then the spyder, especially on the clean channel. The spyder gets more of a "tin" sound then the vyper which gets an overall smooth, well balanced tone. A big part of this is the fact that the vyper is one of the few modeling amps that has analog circuitry, while the line 6 is strictly digital. All that's digital on the vyper are the effects and such. While the gain and eq are analog. (correct me if I'm wrong on any of this, but I do know that the vyper is analog at heart, while the spyder is strictly digital)
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#20
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Unfortunately, This band wagon is true. It's so digital that it hurts to hear it (the spyder III that is) I found a youtube video of a guy playing the same riffs, on the same settings of a Spyder III and Peavey vyper, and the Vyper sounded so much more authentic then the spyder, especially on the clean channel. The spyder gets more of a "tin" sound then the vyper which gets an overall smooth, well balanced tone. A big part of this is the fact that the vyper is one of the few modeling amps that has analog circuitry, while the line 6 is strictly digital. All that's digital on the vyper are the effects and such. While the gain and eq are analog. (correct me if I'm wrong on any of this, but I do know that the vyper is analog at heart, while the spyder is strictly digital)

Except that the amp mentioned above is the Spider Valve...
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Except that the amp mentioned above is the Spider Valve...

Thats why I said "The spyder III, That is"
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#22
I don't know much about amps, but I'm happy with my Spider III so far as a beginner, the sound and price. It sounds a **** load better than the previous amps I owned, but I guess that's not saying much.
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Quote by grayfox1001
Unfortunately, This band wagon is true. It's so digital that it hurts to hear it (the spyder III that is) I found a youtube video of a guy playing the same riffs, on the same settings of a Spyder III and Peavey vyper, and the Vyper sounded so much more authentic then the spyder, especially on the clean channel. The spyder gets more of a "tin" sound then the vyper which gets an overall smooth, well balanced tone. A big part of this is the fact that the vyper is one of the few modeling amps that has analog circuitry, while the line 6 is strictly digital. All that's digital on the vyper are the effects and such. While the gain and eq are analog. (correct me if I'm wrong on any of this, but I do know that the vyper is analog at heart, while the spyder is strictly digital)

I think he was refferring to the fact that everyone was instantly bashing it because it was a Line 6, which is a band wagon. A few people agree that Spider 3's are bad (I don't think they're supposed to be of the best quality anyway, but I digress), and so a bunch of eavesdropping idiots trying to look like experts run around spouting off "LOL LIEN 6 R T3H FAYLE!!". Alot of these people have probably never played a Line 6 amp, let alone a Spider 3, which is sad.
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#24
Quote by ILuvPillows?
This is the problem with band wagons.


I agree... I have a feeling that most people bashing line 6 have only tried/experienced a spider III or something (if that!). I see a lot of internet 'guitar gurus' who don't really seem to know what they're talking about, although OP should have been a bit more specific about the model.
#25
Quote by grayfox1001
Unfortunately, This band wagon is true. It's so digital that it hurts to hear it (the spyder III that is) I found a youtube video of a guy playing the same riffs, on the same settings of a Spyder III and Peavey vyper, and the Vyper sounded so much more authentic then the spyder, especially on the clean channel. The spyder gets more of a "tin" sound then the vyper which gets an overall smooth, well balanced tone. A big part of this is the fact that the vyper is one of the few modeling amps that has analog circuitry, while the line 6 is strictly digital. All that's digital on the vyper are the effects and such. While the gain and eq are analog. (correct me if I'm wrong on any of this, but I do know that the vyper is analog at heart, while the spyder is strictly digital)


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#27
There's nothing wrong with Line 6.

The vetta and flextone are great amps. The spider is what gives them a terrible rep.

The spider is a practice amp, not a great one, but to any beginner its amazing. Most beginners won't notice any difference between that and the vypyr. 75 Watt spiders are a giant waste of money. The spider valves aren't bad, but not good. They are going for pretty cheap right now, I live in canada and long & macquade are selling the 112 combos for 499 CAD, pretty cheap. I wouldn't buy one still. The spiders are mediocre at best to someone with a semi developed ear. But to a beginner, its a great amp. Then again tone is subjective, but the majority of people that aren't beginners don't like the digital sound of the spider.
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#28
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when something drops that hard, it must be crap
and its a line 6 amp which is self-explanatory.


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#29
I don't follow bandwagons, and I think the spider series line 6's sound like crap. I cannot form an opinion on any other models as I've not heard them. But I've played through a few of the spider amps. 2 of the guitarists I have had in my band have used them. I'd say definitely nothing wrong with them if its just something to play on from time to time. But to play out regularly I think there are much better choices.
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