#1
YEs. I know there is a Drum Programs thread up top and I know I already posted my question there. However, I need the info fast because I'm going away Wednesday and I have to order it before I leave. So onto my questions:

What is a good Drum Machine? Currently I'm looking at the Boss DR-670.
How do you get the drum sounds from the machine to the computer?
I understand how to make a drum sequence, but like my previous question, how would I get that to ProTools where I can record my Guitar and Bass and hear how they sound together?
How exactly does a footswitch work with a Drum Machine?
And a follow up to that question: Where would the Drum Machine be producing the sound from? The Guitar amp? Or is it directly fed to the speakers?

Thanks! I hope people can answer this.
#2
Quote by Iron Disturbia
YEs. I know there is a Drum Programs thread up top and I know I already posted my question there. However, I need the info fast because I'm going away Wednesday and I have to order it before I leave. So onto my questions:

What is a good Drum Machine? Currently I'm looking at the Boss DR-670.
How do you get the drum sounds from the machine to the computer?
I understand how to make a drum sequence, but like my previous question, how would I get that to ProTools where I can record my Guitar and Bass and hear how they sound together?
How exactly does a footswitch work with a Drum Machine?
And a follow up to that question: Where would the Drum Machine be producing the sound from? The Guitar amp? Or is it directly fed to the speakers?

Thanks! I hope people can answer this.

well if your working on your computer your better off getting a drum sampler such as EZdrummer or Steven Slate Drums. These two programs will give you MUCH MUCH better sounds than a dr-670 and for literally half the price. this would solve all your problems of having to upload to the computer as the sounds will be there already. and if you were willing to spend 300$ id also have to say give a look at superior drummer 2.0 or the platinum version of slate drums (i recommend superior tho) Once again these sounds will be so much better because they're real recorded drums with numerious samples on numerous velocity levels. just trust me get a software drum sampler.

heres a couple of links of software i recommend.
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Toontrack-EZdrummer-Multi-Layer-Drum-Sampler?sku=703056 149$ EZdrummer
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Toontrack-Superior-Drummer-2.0?sku=720000 299$ Superior drummer 2.0
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Steven-Slate-Drums-SIGNATURE-DRUM-KITS-LE?sku=450869 149$ for LE slate drums
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Steven-Slate-Drums-SIGNATURE-DRUM-KITS-Platinum?sku=450868 329$ for full slate drums
theres also BFD and Addictive drums but i havent heard them enough to recommend them, although im sure their top notch.
#3
I was looking at those. I realize that they are awsome, but the problem I have with them is the unreal feeling I get when I use them. I would love to play the drums, but since I live in an apartment I don't have the room for it. I want something I can touch. If those programs work where I can sue the keyboard as the drum sampler, where I hit the spacebar, for example, to emulate a Kick, then I would be satisfied. If I have to click the kick drum to make a sound, I don't know if I would want that. I'm willing to go up to $500.
#4
Quote by Iron Disturbia
I was looking at those. I realize that they are awsome, but the problem I have with them is the unreal feeling I get when I use them. I would love to play the drums, but since I live in an apartment I don't have the room for it. I want something I can touch. If those programs work where I can sue the keyboard as the drum sampler, where I hit the spacebar, for example, to emulate a Kick, then I would be satisfied. If I have to click the kick drum to make a sound, I don't know if I would want that. I'm willing to go up to $500.

damn 500$!!! with that budget ill fix you up with something id like to think you'll like.

http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Toontrack-Superior-Drummer-2.0?sku=720000 superior drummer 300$
as for playing it theres several options.
http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/Korg-Nano-PAD?sku=703402 korg nanopad 60$. 12 pads and from seeing a few reviews the pads are pretty good
http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/Korg-padKONTROL-USB-MIDI-Controller?sku=702910 korg padknotrol 200$ this is another possibility with 4 extra pads, but id still go with the nanopad.
http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/MAudio-Axiom-25-25Key-USB-MIDI-Controller?sku=706313 180$ it gives 8 pads plus 2 octave keyboard.

seeing as your going away youll prob want some thing potrable so i think the nanopad is your best bet. with SD2.0 and the nanopad youll have a great set-up for only 360$. also if you dont *need* all the capibilities SD2.0 gives you then i suggest you get slate drums le, for a total package price of 210$. also what genres are you playing?

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raD5zPiTvhU check out this video of david haynes using a nanopad and superior drummer 2.0, albiet hes a great finger drummer but this just show the sensitivity of it all.
Last edited by MetalBass 77 at Aug 8, 2009,
#5
So let me understand this. The finger pad is just an external device, much like MiDi is, where you hook it up to a program like SD and you play it with your fingers? Can you play like one kick note and then in SD dubplicate it, loop and then play back and make it sound like crazy double bass? I really don't know how to use a Nanopad. But it looks awsome.
#6
Quote by Iron Disturbia
So let me understand this. The finger pad is just an external device, much like MiDi is, where you hook it up to a program like SD and you play it with your fingers? Can you play like one kick note and then in SD dubplicate it, loop and then play back and make it sound like crazy double bass? I really don't know how to use a Nanopad. But it looks awsome.

well its just a midi device (midi is just code not sound or anything) and it sends say midi note 35 to superior drummer, then superior plays a kick drum. im guessing your into metal so if you want fast double kicks youll just record the kicks first, then record cymbals and snare. also if you have lots of really complicated kick patterns in your songs you can program the drums in your DAW (which daw are you using?) also if you into metal for an extra 140$ you get the metal foundry, 35 gigs of pure drum sounds. yea i suggest you have a good computer and a lot of hard drive space.
#7
WEll, I don't know what DAW is, so yeah ._.

I'm into metal, but I'm going to be using this in a Experimental Band ranging from Jazz fusion to Death Metal. So I need somehting with a lot of diversity.
#8
Quote by Iron Disturbia
WEll, I don't know what DAW is, so yeah ._.

I'm into metal, but I'm going to be using this in a Experimental Band ranging from Jazz fusion to Death Metal. So I need somehting with a lot of diversity.


oh daw stands for digital audio workstation, pretty much it means what audio sequencer/program your using such as cubase,reaper,pro tools,etc.....
yea superior drummer 2.0 i think is for you. it gives a pretty raw sound that sounds good for almost any genre. it comes with a bunch of different snares cymbals, and two whole sets of toms. it also has 3 pairs of room mics for ultimate customization. the kick is a bit on the weak side for heavier music but just add the eq preset muscle to it and lower the volume 1 db and you have a thumping kit thats good for metal, and will go well in any genre. if you want a more finished processed sound slate is better for that, but i think SD2.0 is better for you.

heres a link to slate drums and superior drummer 2.0 drums, give em both a listen.
http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?item=30 superior 2.0
http://www.stevenslatedrums.com/ slate drums
superior is your best bet, tho slate for 150$ is still a very good option.
#11
Quote by sam i am
What's wrong with prgramming MIDI? If you know what you're doing you should be able to make EZdrummer sound realistic.

yea i said in my last post that he could program in his daw, maybe he doesnt know that and thinks that he programmed the drums by clicking the pictures in time with the music this would be very difficult.

anyways back to disturbia in case your confused you can program drums by using a midi editor in your daw, which i think is pro tools. heres a picture of the reaper midi editor, yours should look similar.http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/945/dsr3a5truncatednames.png
so to program drums you can just create little bars and the sound come out. this method wouldnt require you to have the korg nanopad, but if the thought of dragging out little bars seems really boring to you id suggest getting the nanopad as its 60$ and im sure itll come handy in a few ways. also if you want to hear a sample of something i wrote in around an hour music and drum wise then just pm me your email and ill send you the mp3. i did ALL the programming in reaper's midi editor (although i played the kick part on my midi keyboard once to get the right rhythm)
#12
I was going to get MiDi, but I found it pointless and I like the nanopad a lot better. So I'm going to get Session Drummer and the Nanopad.

But just so I'm 100% sure. With the nanopad, I hook it up to my computer, go into SD and when I hit one of the pads it makes the corresponding sound on my computer?
#13
Quote by Iron Disturbia
I was going to get MiDi, but I found it pointless and I like the nanopad a lot better. So I'm going to get Session Drummer and the Nanopad.

But just so I'm 100% sure. With the nanopad, I hook it up to my computer, go into SD and when I hit one of the pads it makes the corresponding sound on my computer?

you mean superior drummer right? dont get session drummer by accident, follow my links for what the case looks like. also midi is code, as i posted before every DAW has a midi editor so you can always program some drums. all the nano pad does is send midi messages so you should be able to plug it in and hit the pads and get some sounds. superior drummer 2.0 has a learn function so if you find you want to change where the high hat is , you go to the bottom right corner click the drop down menu and select high hat, then learn and press the pad you want. i believe the nanopad is made to be plug in and play, although ive heard of driver errors, so be aware.
#15
I like the redrum on Reason more than anything else I've used. It's just limited on how many different noises you can use and can be a pain to load in different sounds.
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#18
i think iron disturbia purchased superior and the nanopad as i recommended to him, also he said he was going on vacation on wednesday i think and its tuesday night so.....