Poll: Which pickups?
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View poll results: Which pickups?
SEYMOUR DUNCAN SH-4BK
11 42%
DIMARZIO DP155FBK
5 19%
DIMARZIO DP192F-BK
2 8%
EMG 81 BK
8 31%
Voters: 26.
#1
Ok, i want change my pickups on my grg170dx so I'm making a poll cause i don't know what to buy..

I'm playing:
System Of A Down
Linkin Park
Metallica
Guns 'N Roses
Ac/Dc

Basically i don't have idea how to change it..
Can someone sum up in a few words what must i do?
Is it easy or i will destroy my guitar?
Last edited by EleosFever at Aug 9, 2009,
#3
I'm using zoom g2.1u directly to pc or guitar rig 3 or my cube 15x..

Basically i will buy a new guitar in the future but now i can't afford a new one..
So i want to improve the sound of the grg170dx..
Uhm, as i know the pickups it has is crappy and cheap..
So the sound will change much, wouldn't it?
#4
It won't. A pickup amplifies what it /picks up/ from the guitar's signal. Since you are using modelling gear, the tone will barely be affected. Even more so in a starter guitar. Either save up for a new guitar or even better, a new amplifier for the kind of music you want to play. This maybe way expensive depending on what you want or if you go used but it's so more worth it.
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#5
I can install the new pickups on the new guitar when i buy it..

Modelling? I can't understand what this means..

EDIT: Look this video HERE..
I never had such a nice tone from my guitar.. It's the same one with different pickups..
Last edited by EleosFever at Aug 9, 2009,
#7
So emg 81 seems to win..

I think that i will not manage to install them..
Can someone sum up how can i?
Last edited by EleosFever at Aug 9, 2009,
#9
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And that's the same guitar, but with a different amplifier. Really, your tone won't change much when you buy other pickups dude... Buy yourself a new amp.
Pickups can greatly change your tone, even tho most of ur tone comes from ur amp, there is a huge difference in tone between some pickups
#10
I can see videos in youtube with my guitar but different pickups and the sound is better, using a cheap multieffect..

@KoenDercksen can you google it and tell me the link cause i can't find anything?
#11
Then you need either learn to use your FX unit better or learn to record properly....I can make a ****box practice combo sound godly with a bit of post-processing.

You don't need new pickups, they're not going to solve your problem no matter how much you want them to.
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#12
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Pickups can greatly change your tone, even tho most of ur tone comes from ur amp, there is a huge difference in tone between some pickups



Not when you're playing into guitar rig or on a cube15x.

Sure you can get the pups now, but actives aren't what you want IMHO cause you're just going to have to pay a lot to get them installed and probably have a battery cavity routed. Which (i'll just assume you're not a precision wood worker) will cost you, so you're going to end up putting more money into the new pickups and the installation than you have put into the guitar, which is OK i guess, but seriously I'd save.

Oh and if it helps I have a cube15x and guitar rig and any guitar I plug in sounds EXACTLY the same as the lastt
Last edited by Zamorak at Aug 9, 2009,
#13
Zamorak i can't understand you..

Steven seagull stop thinking that you are wiseacre..

And please if you DONT KNOW stop posting..
You are not helping with your silly theorys..
#15
Quote by EleosFever
Zamorak i can't understand you..

Steven seagull stop thinking that you are wiseacre..

And please if you DONT KNOW stop posting..
You are not helping with your silly theorys..


Actually he's correct. When you use an audio interface and go into digital software, your analog signal becomes a digital one and it transformed into a line-level signal. Therefre, pickup output doesn't matter much if at all.
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#16
Yes but i know many guitarists using guitar rig and their tone is awesome..

Oh, have you checked my post with the photos? Are all ok in the guitar?
#17
Yes, software can do wonders.

There's nothing wrong with them; height won't change anything except your bass/treble response.

He could be using different software or whatever. I mean, a pickup change will offer a different tone, but it'll just change the equalization not necessary signal quality.

EDIT: He's using a POD X3. Superior to my copy of Guitar Rig.
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#18
Okay, here are some simple facts you need to bear in mind:
  • With your amp, pickups are going to make barely any difference. In fact the chances are they'll only make your tone worse.
  • In general, pickups are only for 'tweaking' your tone. If you're drastically unhappy with your tone, just changing pickups won't do it. You need to change your amp.
  • Specialist pickups like active EMG pickups should not be used by someone like you. I don't mean that in a rude way, it's just they're a specialist tool that don't suit most people and you have to really know what you're doing to get any use out of them. It's like, you wouldn't buy a 12-string acoustic guitar if what you want to play is death metal. It's just inappropriate gear.
  • You really can't base anything from what you hear in a YouTube video. The sound will have been compressed, you don't know how long the person spent processing the sound, you don't know how it was recorded.


With that in mind - new amp first, then guitar. Only worry about pickup changes once you've got a good mid-range or better amp and guitar.
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#19
Theories?

Sorry for giving an honest opinion, if you don't want help don't ask. Go ahead and waste your money.
#20
MrFlibble basically the videos I'm trying to compare with my tone i know how have been recording and mixed.. But no.. I can't get such a nice tone.. Maybe something in my guitar is the problem.. Can you check my photos and tell me if all is ok?

Zamorak i was talking about steven seagull..
#21
Oh, I apologise then. Let me explain.

If you choose to get EMGs (they are active pickups which require a battery) you will have to get a battery cavity in the guitar to hold the battery, which will cost you money at a guitar tech probably. IT'll be a big hassle.

Since you're running your guitar through low level equipment you won't notice much of a difference at all if you get new pickups.

Oh, and on your guitar, the bridge is tilted backwards, you need to unscrew the springs in the back a little and retune as you go so it's all level. : )
#22
Nothing in your guitar is wrong; the guy is using a $400 processor and you're using a shareware (or pirated) cheap FX program.
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#23
Look, the bottom line is that changing pickups isn't going to do jack to your tone. Until you change your amp, you're not going to notice a difference in tone.

And there is absolutely nothing people can get from photos that will tell them anything about your tone.

Get a new amp, an amp that isn't a modelling amp and that isn't a solid state amp. You'll get a much better tone and pickups will at least make a difference then if you still decide to change them.
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#24
Actually i don't want to spend my money on an amp..
I have a zoom g2.1u too..

What about to buy a Pod XT Live to connect it directly with my pc?
#25
What about it? Do what you want with your money and hope for the best.
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#26
Oh my god..
I'm asking what you think it will be better as I'm a noob..

A VOX VT30 + Shure SM57
or Pod XT Live?
#27
Quote by EleosFever
Actually i don't want to spend my money on an amp..
I have a zoom g2.1u too..

What about to buy a Pod XT Live to connect it directly with my pc?
that's certainly a better option than new pickups.

I would like to say that new pickups DO make a difference when running into modeling amps, but generally, low end modeling amps sounds like ****. And if your amp sounds like ****, then your guitar is going to sound like ****, regardless of whatever the pickups are doing for you. The only case I would ever dream of using modeling in a situation that isn't recording on my PC is using an AxeFX into a high quality poweramp.

Just remember this, not all modeling is the same, so take all the advice that is telling you "it won't make a difference with a modeling amp" with a tiny grain of salt. It WILL make a difference, but keep in mind, if your amp is a piece of ****, whether it's a modeling amp, solid state amp, or tube amp, it's all going to sound like ****. The amp has much more potential to limit where you can go with your sound than your guitar or pickups have.
Last edited by al112987 at Aug 9, 2009,
#28
Quote by al112987
that's certainly a better option than new pickups.

I would like to say that new pickups DO make a difference when running into modeling amps, but generally, low end modeling amps sounds like ****. And if your amp sounds like ****, then your guitar is going to sound like ****, regardless of whatever the pickups are doing for you. The only case I would ever dream of using modeling in a situation that isn't recording on my PC is using an AxeFX into a high quality poweramp.


Reading the rest of the thread before restating the obvious is a cool thing to do, bro.

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Oh my god..
I'm asking what you think it will be better as I'm a noob..

A VOX VT30 + Shure SM57
or Pod XT Live?


The AD30VT and micing it, but you'll need a preamp to input your mic into your computer.
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#29
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Reading the rest of the thread before restating the obvious is a cool thing to do, bro.
What obvious did I restate? All I read was "dude, pickup changes don't make any difference through modeling gear."

I believe I said the very opposite of that. Sweet comprehension skills Jethro.

People make it seem like that a pickup change will make absolutely no difference with modeling gear, when it can make quite a difference. I only added the other bit to emphasize that even though it makes a difference, replacing pickups is not as high a priority.
Last edited by al112987 at Aug 9, 2009,
#30
Ok finally i will sell my zoom g2.1u, i will buy a Pod XT Live and when i will have the money i will go for a new guitar...

It's not reason to confuse with amps, mics, sh1ts..

Bye And Peace.