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Magero
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#1
Right.
So, lately there has been a spate of bands coming out (mostly in the UK) playing a style that combines the offtime, low tuned rhythmic chugging of Meshuggah with the ambient atmosphere of Devin Townsend and the ridiculous sweeping of any of those shredders no one cares about. The term to describe these bands has been labelled "Djent", apparently because that's the sound the guitars make with each of the low tuned notes.

Examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGmzlhfIU8g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q026Wby2gqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VYjaOpQBLM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ims89OiP1Ro

Etc

Opinions?

Personally: Sick of it. Meshuggah did it best and now every idiot who learns how to sweep, buys a 7 or an 8 string and just starts writing shit in Guitar Pro with odd time sigs.

2012 edit: I've changed my tune a little since then and currently enjoy a fair amount of djent. I still think the scene needs to expand beyond "Meshuggah riff + tapping part + Devin Townsend ambience", but bands like TesseracT, Vildhjarta, Textures, and Corelia are pretty awesome, so I'll let bygones be bygones.
Last edited by Magero at May 29, 2012,
Guitar_Kingdom
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#2
I agree, most djent sounds generic and uninspired...god I hope it doesn't become the next "big thing"
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MoogleRancha
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#4
As with pretty much every subgenre of metal,

some good, most bad.
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RedDeath9
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#5
I have nothing against the music. I essentially agree with MoggleRancha's post.

However... I hate that word. Djent.

... Djent...

**** that...
RedDeath9
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#7
I don't even know. In my head, it's "jent," with just a hint of the d at the start. Barely noticeable.
Magero
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#8
Quote by RedDeath9
I have nothing against the music. I essentially agree with MoggleRancha's post.

However... I hate that word. Djent.

... Djent...

**** that...

Agreed.
I just hate the term and the prevalence it's finding.
It's pronounced as "jent" with that tiny bit of d at the beginning, which leads to bands like The Djentlemen -facepalm-
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#9
Quote by RedDeath9
I don't even know. In my head, it's "jent," with just a hint of the d at the start. Barely noticeable.


Or it may be deee - gent for all we know

EDIT: Mag's post just made mine useless
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Last edited by Guitar_Kingdom at Aug 10, 2009,
Lappo
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#11
Yeah, definitely dislike the term.

Some of the peeps doing it are pretty good, though. Bulb, Periphery, Cloudkicker.

esp the last, really bosstastic instrumental, releases all his albums for free on the interweb (check myspazz)
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#13
Interesting musical qualities such as polymeters and the like are no doubt interesting. However, I do feel that a large amount of the so called "djent" I've heard seems to sound noticeably insincere. I feel that that bands occupying this genre should take a page from one of their {no doubt} primary influences Meshuggah and develop their own style. I just feel that the majority of these artists do not remain engaging to myself as I can point out the distinct Meshuggah-esque themes. Don't take any of my comments to seriously folks, these are simply the narcissistic ramblings of a somewhat discerning metal listener.

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#14
Absolute bullshit

Seriously, probably the worst "sub-genre" name ever
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#15
Quote by RedDeath9
I have nothing against the music. I essentially agree with MoggleRancha's post.

However... I hate that word. Djent.

... Djent...

**** that...



Agree. It makes my eyelid twitch.


There are a couple of OK bands (TesseracT spring to mind) but it seems that most of these band happily copy each other just as much as Meshuggah. Seriously, it all sounds exactly. The fucking. Same.
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#16
I like Periphery pretty well, but the word djent is stupid. Not too familiar with any other groups that do it.
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#17
magero, after all this time you've spent trying to get everyone to be open minded towards deathcore, you start putting heaps of **** on an entire genre?
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Magero
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#18
This "entire genre" has about 10 bands in it, a fucking stupid name, a fucking stupid cult following, everyone involved is revered as some sort of inhuman god, and every band sounds identical.
That's still my opinion and I created the thread for people to discuss theirs.
Besides, I hate a few genres a fair bit more.
pistols
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#19
the only one of those points that doesn't apply to most deathcore is the 10 bands

although i have to agree on this stuff, it gets boring fairly quick. there's only so much chugging and sweep / tapping that can sound good in one song.
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#20
True, about the similarities.

This isn't that bad. Pretty interesting actually. 10 bands are a change from one, right? provides a bit of diversity instead of just having to listen to Meshuggah all the time.

The only thing I really dislike about this genre are the bands with too much core influence. (like the 3rd[?] link in the OP)
Magero
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#21
Quote by Butt Rayge

The only thing I really dislike about this genre are the bands with too much core influence. (like the 3rd[?] link in the OP)

Woosh.
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#22
I hope it becomes the next big thing. Not that I care for it, just that hopefully it'll end all the whining about '-core'. And maybe it'll attract all the scenekids.

Ohnoes... what if it leads to djentcore?
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#23
After the Burial. It's already happened. There's nothing we can do now. We'll just have to hardcore dance in polymetrics.
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#24
^
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#25
Never heard of this phenomena, I have no idea what bands you all are talking about, I am literally completely oblivious to anything regarding this issue, and am too lazy to click one of those links and be informed.

I just came in to say that Meshuggah are gay.
France too.
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#26
Quote by webbtje
After the Burial. It's already happened. There's nothing we can do now. We'll just have to hardcore dance in polymetrics.


But it's hard enough beating up the invisible ninjas without needing to count to 13.
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#27
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I just came in to say that Meshuggah are gay.
France too.


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#28
Quote by webbtje
Stoner metal is for ponces.

Evidence of France being gay.

Well, in addition to the already existing evidence...
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Guitarmike123
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#29
So... djent is the "blewp" sound demonstrated in the videos?

Seems kinda weird that it has a such as huge following. They actually regard this as a serious genre?
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#30
Quote by dead-fish
Never heard of this phenomena, I have no idea what bands you all are talking about, I am literally completely oblivious to anything regarding this issue, and am too lazy to click one of those links and be informed.

I just came in to say that Meshuggah are gay.
France too.


probably the best post I have ever read in a forum

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Never heard of this phenomena, I have no idea what bands you all are talking about, I am literally completely oblivious to anything regarding this issue, and am too lazy to click one of those links and be informed.

I just came in to say that High on Fire are gay.
France too.


That one would have been better
^thats probably sarcasm^

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#31
I'm enjoying this Tesseract song. I think they're pretty good, I like the clean vocals here.

I don't mind this subgenre, yeah, most of it is pretty samey - but so is every genre, it's the interesting 10% out there than make the difference.
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#32
Quote by Killcount
probably the best post I have ever read in a forum


That one would have been better

You're the first person who fails to be funny, insulting or intelligent in less than 3 sentences to address me! Congratulations, unfunny, not insulting, stupid person guy!
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#33
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You're the first person who fails to be funny, insulting or intelligent in less than 3 sentences to address me! Congratulations, unfunny, not insulting, stupid person guy!

if I'm the first person who has fit those qualifications you need to head to the hardcore forum.

And give me a break, I'm hungover on 5 hours of sleep
^thats probably sarcasm^

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#34
First person to address me that fits those qualifications.
And I do not need to head to the hardcore forum for anything. There is a sizeable amount of perfectly good idiots in here.

I refuse to go into another "who's more miserable" contest. I'm sick of winning them...
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#35
I wasn't claiming miserableness, just a lack of brain function.

anyway, I probably wont listen to any of this because I'm not too big on Meshuggah, After the Burial gets old pretty quick, and I don't like the majority of shred artists.
^thats probably sarcasm^

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#36
Quote by Kepulix
Absolute bullshit

Seriously, probably the worst "sub-genre" name ever


Another djent in the tr00ness of metuhl.

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#37
Quote by dead-fish
First person to address me that fits those qualifications.
And I do not need to head to the hardcore forum for anything. There is a sizeable amount of perfectly good idiots in here.

I refuse to go into another "who's more miserable" contest. I'm sick of winning them...



He's right you know, so far he's winning the award for it this year. Again.
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#38
Meshuggah sucks. They're like a pile of stinking poop.
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#39


Yeah, the Tesseract song sounded alright. I liked the ambiance and clean vocals... Something sort of new. I listen to Textures, but Tesseract seems much more interesting and... um... what's the word... genuine? At least that's what it sounds like to me.