#1
Hi! So I'm pretty set on buying a used Mesa Rectifier head. The thing is, I don't know what the difference between the Single, Dual, and Triple rectifiers is besides the number of channels it has.

I have only tried the Mesa single for about 20-30 minutes but I love the whole "raw" sound it produces, and I don't have an opportunity to try any duals or triples around in my area. And really, I don't think I need anything more than the 50 watts.

The sound I'm going for: anything from poppunk to hardcore.

So should I just stick with the Mesa Single Rectifier head? or should I not overlook the doubles and triples.

Thanks
#2
The single recto is only 2 channels and has no tube rectification, only solid state.

The Dual Recto has 3 channels, solid state and tube rectification and bigger transformers, more wattage, more headroom, bigger sound.

Triple Recto has the same as the dual, just bigger transformers and more wattage. The Triple is the "biggest" sounding of the three.


IMO, an older 2 channel Dual or Triple Recto completely destroys any of the newer ones.
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#3
Moar rectifiers = more brootalz.

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#5
Not necessarily.

If I were buying a new Mesa head, I'd probably go with the Single, it sounds the tightest to my ears, just not as "big", but it still doesn't hold a candle to the old 2 channel Dual/Triples. The Rect-O-Verbs and Trem-O-Verbs, however, are awesome.
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#6
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The single recto is only 2 channels and has no tube rectification, only solid state.


im pretty sure the single has tubes. i was about to bid on one on ebay the other day and i saw specific photos in the back where it had tubes. im planning on buying this head too. would this be a good head for poppunk?
#7
Quote by nick54321
im pretty sure the single has tubes. i was about to bid on one on ebay the other day and i saw specific photos in the back where it had tubes. im planning on buying this head too. would this be a good head for poppunk?

No, MatrixClaw is correct - the Single Rectifiers only have one form of rectification (diode), hence SINGLE Rectifier.
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#8
Quote by bubb_tubbs
No, MatrixClaw is correct - the Single Rectifiers only have one form of rectification (diode), hence SINGLE Rectifier.


Mini thread jack, how do you like your 81 JCM 800? How does it compare to the ones even a year or two after it?
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#9
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Mini thread jack, how do you like your 81 JCM 800? How does it compare to the ones even a year or two after it?

I played an '83 and it was pretty much the same as this one, but it was a 2203 and he wanted over $1100 for it so I didn't take it.

I think it's a fantastic amp. Very touch-responsive, great tone with the Master up, and - I know I'm going to take some flak for this - pretty versatile.

With pedals you can get lots of different tones out of it quite easily, and if you want low gain stuff like Hendrix, just plug into the Low input and crank the living hell out of the Master. Pretty Plexi-ish with that input trick.
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#10
Ah, I want one so bad. Im selling my Orange and buying one as soon as someone is selling one in the area, I'd rather not buy over craigslist. I'm also picking up an OD808 like you have, is there any others that would work better with the 800 in your opinion?
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#11
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Ah, I want one so bad. Im selling my Orange and buying one as soon as someone is selling one in the area, I'd rather not buy over craigslist. I'm also picking up an OD808 like you have, is there any others that would work better with the 800 in your opinion?

Personally I think an 808-modded SD-1 is the ultimate boost pedal for the 800.
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#12
Quote by nick54321
im pretty sure the single has tubes. i was about to bid on one on ebay the other day and i saw specific photos in the back where it had tubes. im planning on buying this head too. would this be a good head for poppunk?


Uhh it has tubes (6L6 & 12AX7), not rectifier tubes. It will do pop punk just fine.


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#13
Quote by bubb_tubbs
Personally I think an 808-modded SD-1 is the ultimate boost pedal for the 800.


Just looked that up, said it's supposed to make and SD-1 sound like an 808. Is that better than a regular 808?
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#14
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Just looked that up, said it's supposed to make and SD-1 sound like an 808. Is that better than a regular 808?

The SD-1 has some bass loss, which makes up for the boominess some Marshalls can have with mahogany guitars.
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#15
Get the single rectifier, i'll probably take one over the dual. 50 watt is enough, even for gigs and specially if the club has a PA system. And my other statement is totally personnal preference but i like 2 channels over 3. I'll probably go for a rectoverb though.
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#16
Quote by occub
Uhh it has tubes (6L6 & 12AX7), not rectifier tubes. It will do pop punk just fine.


^ not a mini thread jack anymore

Uhh, of course its a tube amp. The point was that the amps rectification is solid state as opposed to being switchable between tube or solid state like the Dual and Triple.

Id go for the Dual myself, but as said earlier, if you can find a two channel Dual or Triple, go for it
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#17
Quote by IsThereLoveInSp
Uhh, of course its a tube amp. The point was that the amps rectification is solid state as opposed to being switchable between tube or solid state like the Dual and Triple.

Id go for the Dual myself, but as said earlier, if you can find a two channel Dual or Triple, go for it



90% of tube amps has SS tube rectification.
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#18
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90% of tube amps has SS rectification.

Fixed. Your post made no sense.
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#19
Quote by bubb_tubbs
Fixed. Your post made no sense.



yeah, that's what i wanted to say.
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#20
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yeah, that's what i wanted to say.

I figured as much.
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#21
Quote by IsThereLoveInSp
Uhh, of course its a tube amp. The point was that the amps rectification is solid state as opposed to being switchable between tube or solid state like the Dual and Triple.

Id go for the Dual myself, but as said earlier, if you can find a two channel Dual or Triple, go for it


Thank you captain obvious, he said he looked at the back and saw tubes. He was confused and didn't understand the difference between pre/power/rect.
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#22
so I guess I'm pretty set on buying a single rectifier head then. but how do you guys feel about the first series and the current one. (the difference is between the tube switching thingy?)
#23
If you can find a series II, that way you have the option to use EL34 as well as 6L6 power tubes. series can only use 6L6. Plus I think the Series II has the Raw mode which is not on Series I. Series II has more options.

You should really try a Dual as well. More headroom for you clean channel and I think they sound bigger because of the larger power transformers
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#24
Its all personal preference when it comes to rectifiers. I personally like the sound and extra channel that the Dual/Triple offers but you may like the Single better. If I were you I would buy the Dual Rectifier because its not as loud as the Triple Rectifier but still is very similar.
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#26
Single recto can be very hardcore too. Tight sound out of this amp.
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#27
You can always reduce the wattage of the Dual to 50 watts by pulling out two of the power tubes, which is what i do, and it sounds great =]
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#28
The single rec rocks, I've had mine just over three weeks and I'm loving everything it sings, it's truly beautiful.

I personally couldn't tame the dual, but that's just me, it was a little too loud for my applications in fairness. The Single suits my needs completely and it has such a nice tone. Don't worry about the Tube rectifiers, as has been said already, most amps have solid state rectifiers like the single does, so in my opinion it doesn't bother me. The only thing I'll say is that having SS rectifiers suits my style of music more because I believe it sounds tighter without the tube rectifiers.

As for the style of music your playing, it's perfect.

I would advise a 2x12/4x12 mesa cab, I have the 2x12 and it's simply a stunning setup.

Good luck!