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#1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHzKxtwuGzo

So, Obama's working on a law allowing for the unwarranted search of laptops, computers and media devices...for intellectual property. The White House has officially backed the record companies.

Doesn't this violate something? Like something the founding fathers wrote...Can't put my finger on it.

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Ah, that's it. Anyways, really hoping the Supreme Court knocks it out because it is the exact definition of unconstitutional.
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#3
So police officers and FBI agents are just gonna show up at our doors and steal the porn from our computers without a warrant now?
#4
Oh ****.
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#5
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Is this a good thing or bad thing?


When you're traveling the government can now randomly, and without a warrant, search your computers or media devices (iPods and the such), for pirated music, movies, software and all that, and confiscate it.

Direct violation of the constitution...You decide.
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#7
When you start talking about backing the record companies, are you talking about illegal downloading...?

Because if so, I've got something that's been around a little longer then the Constitution...

VIII. THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.


But if that's not what your talking about, then ignore...

Oh, and your avatar is semi-ironic...
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#10
probably not the best political move. Young America is why he was elected. now he is attacking the technically savvy youthful generation.. This may cost him later.
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#11
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When you're traveling the government can now randomly, and without a warrant, search your computers or media devices (iPods and the such), for pirated music, movies, software and all that, and confiscate it.

Direct violation of the constitution...You decide.


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That is by far the dumbest law ever. well not really the dumbest because there's a law where you can't eat a orange while taking a shower.
But anyways that's complete bull****.
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#12
Didn't Bush start this one? I remember reading about it a year ago. I know someone else has to remember it. Everyone on UG was pissing and moaning about it then, too. It was one of the last things he was signing in.
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#13
Youtube is not a news source. If anything it's one of the easiest mediums to publish fake news on. Please link a normal news source.

Will comment once a reliable news source is quoted.
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#15
^metaldud536, lol.

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Didn't Bush start this one? I remember reading about it a year ago. I know someone else has to remember it. Everyone on UG was pissing and moaning about it then, too. It was one of the last things he was signing in.


I remember it. I also remember someone said internet censorship was going to be introduced in Australia. Still yet to happen.
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Youtube is not a news source. If anything it's one of the easiest mediums to publish fake news on. Please link a normal news source.

Will comment once a reliable news source is quoted.


Google that ****, yo.
#19
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^metaldud536, lol.


I remember it. I also remember someone said internet censorship was going to be introduced in Australia. Still yet to happen.

Thank God, I thought maybe I was just making stuff up in my head again. Now that I've got back up, this has been in the works since before Obama. If it's even true. And I doubt it is.
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#20
This is a bill that former President George W Bush began and that received significant support from both parties in Congress.


Ah, that's it. Anyways, really hoping the Supreme Court knocks it out because it is the exact definition of unconstitutional.

Define "unreasonable."
#21
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Google that ****, yo.


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#22
Wow, everybody called me crazy when I said he's gonna change the US for the worse and what's happening? Yeah, **** this guy. He's a piece of **** liar. Ron Paul or Nader would've been the best choice, but they had no chance, especially Paul.
#23
Good to be british maaan.

But seriously, I don't think it'll be a huge problem, you won't get guys coming to your door every day saying "Can I check yo laptop bro?".
#24
but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


You're all a bunch of idiots. The regular police can already sieze your personal laptop upon "probable cause". This is nothing new.
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#25
Quote by necrosis1193
Lazy bastard, can't be assed.


Hm, i googled it. And i got a bunch of Pages.
Seems legit to me.
#26
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This is a bill that former President George W Bush began and that received significant support from both parties in Congress.


Define "unreasonable."

Without proper reason. In other words, at random; which is exactly what unwarranted is or can evolve to.
#27
Quote by Punk_Ninja
Good to be british maaan.

But seriously, I don't think it'll be a huge problem, you won't get guys coming to your door every day saying "Can I check yo laptop bro?".
Still, they shouldn't be able to search any of my stuff, ever. It's ridiculous.
And if they wanted to, they could.
#28
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Without proper reason. In other words, at random; which is exactly what unwarranted is or can evolve to.

Cause the police just walk randomly into people's homes looking for heroin.
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#29
id like to see some government goons try to come into my house and search my stuff.
if this law is actually true then im gonna be pissed.
the US does not need the government controlling everything we do.
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#30
Quote by biga29
When you start talking about backing the record companies, are you talking about illegal downloading...?

Because if so, I've got something that's been around a little longer then the Constitution...

VIII. THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.


But if that's not what your talking about, then ignore...

Oh, and your avatar is semi-ironic...


I don't think this is a good place to start quoting the commandments.
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#31
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id like to see some government goons try to come into my house and search my stuff.
if this law is actually true then im gonna be pissed.
the US does not need the government controlling everything we do.
SOCIALISM SUCKS

This isn't socialism.


You're all a bunch of idiots. The regular police can already sieze your personal laptop upon "probable cause". This is nothing new.

Yeah, that is true. "Probable cause" can mean just about anything.
#32
Quote by Jack Off Jill
Cause the police just walk randomly into people's homes looking for heroin.

They can't search for heroin without a warrant.
#33
Some one post up the proposed bill's number and then we can actually discuss fact and not rumor
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#34
Quote by Spamwise

Yeah, that is true. "Probable cause" can mean just about anything.


I'm not sure but can't you stop the police from searching you through "probable cause" by demanding for a warrant?

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Some one post up the proposed bill's number and then we can actually discuss fact and not rumor


Good point. Where does one look this up?
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#36
To be honest, having pirated music will be the same as possessing a little bit of weed. No one really cares and they might confiscate it if they're in a bad mood. Whats the worst they could do. No government or company has the funds the send every person who downloads illegal music through the criminal courts. And even if you end up with a criminal record, it'd be like having a conviction for speeding. No effect.

This is pointless and won't make it out of government talks.
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#37
Quote by TheIceCreamMan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHzKxtwuGzo

So, Obama's working on a law allowing for the unwarranted search of laptops, computers and media devices...for intellectual property. The White House has officially backed the record companies.
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supposed "news" source:RussiaToday

bring info from a credible news agency without an anti-American spin on it
and I'll be inclined to join this discussion.

later, man.
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#38
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Hm, i googled it. And i got a bunch of Pages.
Seems legit to me.


Google will show anything containing the words you give it, even if that thing is a site ran by a heavily partisan fellow like Michael Moore or Rush Limbaugh. Please provide links.

Edit; Also what SomeoneYouKnew said.
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#40
And if this is really for illegal downloads, that's even more ridiculous. Most bands that aren't full of themselves don't care about illegal downloads. They make their money on touring and merch anyway. Who cares about record labels?
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